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LITTLE NEMO and TERRY and the PIRATES...
« on: January 01, 2012, 09:17:46 AM »
WOW!!!

I've seen collections... BIG collections selling for at least $100...

But these are public domain... without question...

Am I to understand correctly that all they are doing is just repackaging the content and selling it?


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LITTLE NEMO and TERRY and the PIRATES...
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Re: LITTLE NEMO and TERRY and the PIRATES...
« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2012, 01:01:35 PM »
Anyone can do it. 
But some of these collections are at full tabloid size and you can see a lot of work and love went into them.  But nothing stopping you doing it with any public domain book, comic, etc.  But you best be sure to check with a lawyer first!

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Re: LITTLE NEMO and TERRY and the PIRATES...
« Reply #2 on: January 01, 2012, 06:26:57 PM »
Yep! All you have to do it have the original pages, take the time to scan and clean them, know how to design, package and promote the book, then have enough spare cash around to pay some printer (ten to hundreds of thousands of dollars) to print enough copies of the book to ONLY charge $100, then get them shipped back from China or Italy or wherever you can find a printer that can manage that huge size paper size, and then commission some box manufacturer to build a custom box and find someplace to store the books until you sell them. Sure, ANYBODY can do it.

Peter Maresca, of Sunday Press, who does all the above on a regular basis, is a good friend (who happens to live a mile and a half from me). Believe me, those "big collections" are not as easy as one might imagine.

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Re: LITTLE NEMO and TERRY and the PIRATES...
« Reply #3 on: January 01, 2012, 11:38:41 PM »
Well said Jim.
Of course I meant no disrespect to Sunday Press or any of the other publishers - I hope they all find enough customers to continue their collections.  Money will always be the bottom line.

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Re: LITTLE NEMO and TERRY and the PIRATES...
« Reply #4 on: January 01, 2012, 11:57:45 PM »
I didn't buy the Little Nemo collections they did because, well, I'm not that big a fan of Little Nemo.  The Taschen collection is plenty for my shelf.  I loved the Visitors from Oz book they did, though.  Worth every penny.

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Re: LITTLE NEMO and TERRY and the PIRATES...
« Reply #5 on: January 02, 2012, 07:17:42 AM »
Yep! All you have to do it have the original pages, take the time to scan and clean them, know how to design, package and promote the book, then have enough spare cash around to pay some printer (ten to hundreds of thousands of dollars) to print enough copies of the book to ONLY charge $100, then get them shipped back from China or Italy or wherever you can find a printer that can manage that huge size paper size, and then commission some box manufacturer to build a custom box and find someplace to store the books until you sell them. Sure, ANYBODY can do it.

Peter Maresca, of Sunday Press, who does all the above on a regular basis, is a good friend (who happens to live a mile and a half from me). Believe me, those "big collections" are not as easy as one might imagine.

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Interesting...

An endeavor of this size... could be put on KickStarter and most likely be funded and distributed... quite a few books and other such stuff have successfully been funded...


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Re: LITTLE NEMO and TERRY and the PIRATES...
« Reply #6 on: January 02, 2012, 12:37:52 PM »

Interesting...

An endeavor of this size... could be put on KickStarter and most likely be funded and distributed... quite a few books and other such stuff have successfully been funded...

Perhaps. What large book projects (in the $50,000+ range) have been successfully funded and executed with KickStarter? And how long has KickStarter been around and how long does it take to raise funds? Who gets the profits? There are VERY few profits in these endeavors and if you have to split them among a hundred investors there's little incentive to devote such an intense amount of time.

Always interesting to hear about new ways of doing things. Curious to know how this is succeeding.

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Re: LITTLE NEMO and TERRY and the PIRATES...
« Reply #7 on: January 02, 2012, 12:50:48 PM »
Kickstarter has been around for a couple of years...

There are no investors in KickStarter projects... just donations... and they get rewarded by the level of donation they provide... and you choose what kind of reward you give...

KickStarter is also all-or-nothing funding... If the funding exceeds the goal, that money is given over to the project as a bonus.

usually the funding runs from 1 week to 2 months.

a project with all-sorts-of-coolness would usually get funded...

check it out...

KickStarter.com


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Re: LITTLE NEMO and TERRY and the PIRATES...
« Reply #8 on: January 02, 2012, 01:06:01 PM »
Kickstarter has been around for a couple of years...

There are no investors in KickStarter projects... just donations... and they get rewarded by the level of donation they provide.
I'm not certain that I understand what "getting rewarded by the level of donation" means. Is it a psychic reward of good karma or do they get some return on their investment?
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KickStarter is also all-or-nothing funding... If the funding exceeds the goal, that money is given over to the project as a bonus.
Which would make it difficult to actually begin to invest time and energy until one knows whether the funding is really going to be there.
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usually the funding runs from 1 week to 2 months.
Which is not a very long time to wait, actually. Sounds pretty fast.
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a project with all-sorts-of-coolness would usually get funded...
Who's doing the funding and what do they get out of it? Do they get their money back or is it a charitable donation (not necessarily with relation to their taxes, but are they giving the money away or investing it)?
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check it out...

KickStarter.com

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I looked at it but didn't spend much time digging down. My personal interests are minor in that arena.

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Re: LITTLE NEMO and TERRY and the PIRATES...
« Reply #9 on: January 02, 2012, 01:16:31 PM »
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/search?utf8=&term=comic+book

the rewards are whatever you want it to be... example... if you get a donation of $10... the reward is a lollypop... if the donation is $100... the reward is a t-shirt... etc...

It's not difficult at all... you make your pitch video and supporting images and plan...  tell all the blogs and news sites about it... and let it go...

It is fast... look at the link above...

KickStarter collects the money and keeps a 2.5 percent ( i think ) as a fee... the rest comes to your credit card / bank account or paypal...

The money is given... no investing what so ever.

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Re: LITTLE NEMO and TERRY and the PIRATES...
« Reply #10 on: January 02, 2012, 01:49:50 PM »
The inherent problem is that crowd-funding systems (and I should disclose that I've supported...oh dear, over two hundred projects...wow, but my point is that, as a consumer, I love the service) is that it only covers the money end, and a lot of project require a lot of know-how.  Jim rightly points out that you need to know where to get certain things printed, for example.  Also keep in mind that Kickstarter is a "curated collection" in many ways:  They don't police the projects once they're funded, but a non-specific goal or something they think has no chance of getting funding (since it wastes their resources) won't get onto the site.

To answer Jim's question and give a basic rundown, each project has a funding goal.  If they can raise pledges for that much money, they get it (minus processing fees), and if they can't, none of the donors are charged.  The better projects use gifts/incentives to raise the pledges in the PBS vein (i.e., pledge more than X and you'll get a branded unique-but-cheap thing) if there's not a product in the conventional sense (say, starting a community garden) or basically use the system to take pre-orders when there is.

(Of course, while it thankfully hasn't happened to me, yet, there are projects that take the money and then...nothing happens.  They can't secure IP rights or prices have skyrocketed or there's a family crisis and they never deliver.  There's no recourse, since the gift/reward system means that you're not actually entering into a contract for goods delivered, so buyer beware.  I've had great experiences, which is why I've donated to an absurd number of projects, whereas others are understandably angry.)

In any case, the bottom line is that anybody is allowed to publish public domain content however they like, but not everybody's cut out to make a business out of it.  We're all allowed to produce concrete houses, too, since Edison's patents expired about eighty years ago, but the logistics and economic realities keep us from giving it a shot.