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Offline Roygbiv666

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Re: DC Relaunch
« Reply #15 on: September 26, 2011, 03:23:15 PM »
Yeah.  Some character named Power Girl, A non-Kara Supergirl, and of course my wife who puts them all to shame.

--David

"Power Girl"? Really? Wow, you haven't read DC in a while ;-)

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Re: DC Relaunch
« Reply #15 on: September 26, 2011, 03:23:15 PM »

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Re: DC Relaunch
« Reply #16 on: September 26, 2011, 09:31:46 PM »
I'm just trying NOT to picture Dave's wife in my mind.... if she can put Power Girl to shame!   :-X

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Re: DC Relaunch
« Reply #17 on: September 27, 2011, 06:20:50 PM »
Yes, my superpower is being the luckiest man in the world

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Re: DC Relaunch
« Reply #18 on: September 27, 2011, 09:12:56 PM »
Within the last 3 days I got to a comic shop and the Glasgow Mart.  Comic shop Dave reported selling out on some titles and was doubtful if reorders for next prints would turn up.  There had been more young folk coming in and he was really hopeful that sales on subsequent issues would be, if not be as good as #1's, at least strong.  Punters I spoke to in the shop were all aware of the downloads but wanted paper copies.
Fans at the mart reported one local shop selling out same day but this seems to be the shop that's been cutting back on orders recently. Both dealers and fans presented mixed views, with some of us older blokes confirming our fears that this would be a jumping off point but there were a lot of fans, including some older D.C. nuts who were happy with a lot of the stuff.
As for me, I bought 6 titles, none of which were from D.C. but, as I have friends who run comic shops, I was able to have a good look at some of the new stuff and came to the conclusion that I didn't really want to start loading up with all this new stuff which carries the names of characters I've been following since 1959, when American comics were first distributed in U.K.  My one hope rests with All Star Western next week.

 I haven't bought a new DC comic in I can't remember how long (at least three years and possibly as long as five) but I'll admit the notion of a new "All Star Western" series piques my interest just because it seems so unlikely. I sincerely doubt I would want to see more than a single issue, however.

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Re: DC Relaunch
« Reply #19 on: September 28, 2011, 09:42:37 AM »
Apart from being a fan of Hex and El Diablo from way back, I was intrigued to hear that Hex is in Gotham in a story which features the first drive-by shooting.  Fingers crossed for a good story but I fear I might be disappointed. Getting old, I suppose.
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Re: DC Relaunch
« Reply #20 on: September 29, 2011, 10:26:32 AM »
I liked All Star Western. I think it is off to a good start. It has me wanting to see what is going to happen. I can not say that for most of the other books.

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Re: DC Relaunch
« Reply #21 on: September 29, 2011, 02:44:27 PM »
I read a couple of the new issues so far:
Detective Comics - Eeeww! If you liked the more disturbing parts of Silence of the Lambs then go for it.
Action Comics - Loved it! Art was way cool, and the story is of the first year Clark is "active" as a super hero.
Justice League - Loving it so far.
Justice League International - I liked this one better then JL. The dialogue seemed fresher and Jim Lee needs to look over his shoulder at this guy's lines.
Hawk & Dove - Very average, which I expected better from Leifeld.
Mister Terrific - Better then I thought, and story got intense when I wasn't looking alluvasudden.
Batman & Robin - Damian is awesome and any comic where he is done well is awesome by default. This comic does Damian well.
Green Arrow - Pretty cool, and I've never been a GA fan. I'm sticking with him for now.
Frankenstein - Definite potential. Love the concept.
Legion Lost - Reader lost (in confusion) What? Who? Why? Can we have any of these before you start killing characters off?
Justice League Dark - Wished they had Dr. Fate, but still cool.
Legion of Super-Heroes - One of my favorites so far. Great artwork.
Red Hood & the Outlaws - Starfire is way different but it is a reboot so I guess it's okay. Art reminds me of the first runs from Image comics.
Supergirl - Hate the costume, love the story.
Catwoman - Definitely different. Selina no longer knows who Batman is. But the art is awesome and the story has me waiting for next issue so good enough.
Teen Titans - This one blew me away it was so good. It does like JL and shows the "origin" story and that is a way different origin here as well.
Wonder Woman - Love the story, will get the next issue in spite of the horrid art.
Aquaman - This one will surprise you. It was fresh, suspenseful, and great art.
Batgirl - Great, and I'm a Stephanie Brown fan so I wanted to hate it.

That's all so far. I plan on reading GL-New Guardians, Birds of Prey, DC Presents, Batman TDK, and Superman as well.

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Re: DC Relaunch
« Reply #22 on: September 29, 2011, 04:29:13 PM »
I hit a run that I didn't like.  Blue Beetle (an origin?  seriously?), Wonder Woman (eh), Supergirl (narration-heavy and not much story), Green Lantern Corps (too cop-heavy), Captain Atom (pseudo-cerebral), and Birds of Prey (ugh, ugh, ugh!).

Batman was good, though, on a lot of levels.  I hope the book continues being "city-heavy."

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Re: DC Relaunch
« Reply #23 on: September 29, 2011, 07:37:13 PM »
Charlie your description based on what I have read sounds like we may have some of the same tastes. I may have to give TT a try.

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Re: DC Relaunch
« Reply #24 on: September 30, 2011, 03:05:55 PM »
The T&A fest in Voodoo was hilarious.  That was a comedy, right?

I'm actually surprised by the medium to positive reviews.  I'm thinking that now, in 2011, there are no more "Hey Kids...Comics" campaigns and that the material should be more substantial.  I could pick apart what I don't like, but it's not worth it.  The material is below being worthy of that type of analysis.  Really not trying to be a snob here, but there's very little substance in these new titles.  I mean, look at what it costs to buy one of each of the new titles!  Don't you think for that kind of dough, there shouldn't be some riveting fiction?  Is Bruce Wayne's adopted son even near being a believable human?  Do we get Batman and Catwoman doing the doomed lovers thing again?  Isn't there anyone out there able to write and draw these characters to the next level?

Sorry about the negative vibe.  I am really disappointed with DC.

--Dave

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Re: DC Relaunch
« Reply #25 on: October 03, 2011, 03:59:54 PM »
To continue making my way through...

I didn't understand anything that was going on in Blackhawks or New Guardians.  I don't mean that in a "they started the action without me and expect me to keep up" kind of way, which would be good.  I mean that in an "are we sure those aren't just random panels?" kind of way.  New Guardians is made worse by basically trying to "clean up" old continuity with the relaunch instead of just leaving well enough alone.

Savage Hawkman suffers from continuity-itis already (did New Carter Hall really need an existing history as Hawkman?) and the new design is dreadful, but it has definite potential.

Firestorm was a disappointment, a mess of violence, teen angst, randomly-placed quips, pseudoscience, crapshoot continuity (again, in the first issue, is it really necessary to do this?), and a storyline that makes the hero...basically inconsequential.  Maybe I just don't like Gail Simone's writing.

Superman...The story was pretty marginal, the new costume stinks, there's too much "tell" rather than "show," Clark comes off as a bit of a jerk (especially the epilogue), and the "article" narrating the story really should have been edited by someone who had, y'know, read a newspaper at least once.  Those are cosmetic details, though.  What's important is that it's (almost) the same fun Superman from Action Comics, the characters are basically interesting, and most of all, this is how you do a relaunch, diving into coherent action and introducing everybody as you go.  Basically, DC should've led with Superman instead of Justice League and told the other writers to keep trying until their books were better than this.

Aquaman was the other winner by a long shot, though the art is absurdly goofy-looking and I think it was...well, "methinks the lady doth protest too much."  I get the idea and enjoy it as sort of a background concept, but the entire issue was basically, "no, really, Aquaman can be cool.  No, really!"

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Re: DC Relaunch
« Reply #26 on: October 06, 2011, 02:19:06 PM »
Charlie your description based on what I have read sounds like we may have some of the same tastes. I may have to give TT a try.

The main thing I didn't like was Red Robin's new costume (looks like that old anime where everyone was dressed as birds). But the artwork was really good, and I have to get the next issue.

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Gary Frank & Geoff Johns Try to Lift the CURSE OF SHAZAM!
« Reply #27 on: October 19, 2011, 10:57:01 AM »
Pulled from Newsararma here -
http://www.newsarama.com/comics/gary-frank-curse-of-shazam-111017.html

GARY FRANK (& Geoff Johns) Try to Lift THE CURSE OF SHAZAM!
By Vaneta Rogers

The word was once a familiar American icon: "SHAZAM!"
And DC Comics is hoping it will be again.

For the next phase of DC's historic renumbering and reboot —- which already spawned newer, younger versions of Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman -— the publisher is revamping its once hugely popular Captain Marvel property and his transforming shout of "Shazam!"

"Ours is a very modern Shazam," said Gary Frank, who's rebooting the property with superstar writer Geoff Johns. "As with the other characters [in DC's relaunch], there is a slight shift in emphasis here."

While the hero won't get his own comic, DC is strategically placing Shazam's story inside its top-selling title Justice League, beginning with January's issue #5. Titled The Curse of Shazam, the new story will be a separate "back-up" tale, placed behind the Justice League story that Johns is also writing.


Wasn't there a Year of Shazam not long ago when Warner was pushing for it to be another Timm animated show or something?
-Yoc

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Re: DC Relaunch
« Reply #28 on: October 19, 2011, 04:30:37 PM »
There was vague talk just last year, I think it was, of rebooting the Marvel Family as Warner's post-Potter cash cow, though I don't know if it was supposed to be a Bruce Timm thing.  I got the impression that the executives where heavy into the idea of it being more Harry Potter than Captain Marvel, so that might be what you're thinking of.

It could work, and it might fit the "curse" title.  Or it may be gory and depressing.  Or both.

Heh.  Since this news is guaranteed to lead to a lot of angry fans, I wonder how much money DC could raise by selling off the rights to some of its lesser characters.  Could you imagine the collections to "save" some character from DC's clutches...?

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October sales numbers...
« Reply #29 on: October 22, 2011, 08:34:32 PM »
DC says they've slipped some but sounds like they expected it and still are happy with the sales numbers.
A long Newsarama entry on it can be read here -
http://www.newsarama.com/comics/dcnu-retail-report-month-2-111019.html?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=NA_10202011

And in Marvel news I guess things aren't going as well - 12 layoffs were recently made -
http://www.comicsbeat.com/2011/10/20/more-marvel-layoffs-include-pondscum/

-Yoc