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Offline CharlieRock

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Golden Age Superheroine in fan made trailer
« on: March 01, 2013, 10:17:20 PM »
A famous Golden Age superheroine kicks Nazi butt in this fan made trailer:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LktFhM9980I
(this movie has been removed by user - DCM Staff)
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Golden Age Superheroine in fan made trailer
« on: March 01, 2013, 10:17:20 PM »

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Re: Golden Age Superheroine in fan made trailer
« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2013, 03:00:29 AM »
Ugh, that was bad.*

When I think of the Golden Age WW I think of the fun, light-hearted character who was a response to all the violent pulp inspired heroes, not the current grimdark, mass murdering WW who appears in comics today.

* Personal reaction, not a commentary on the production values or stunt work/acting, which seemed fine for what the creators were going for.

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Re: Golden Age Superheroine in fan made trailer
« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2013, 10:54:40 AM »
They have taken it down from Youtube, but if you Google "Wonder Woman Kicks Nazi Butt" (which, apparently is the name of this short) you can find the clone copies. As SuperScrounge points out it is very grim, and dark. While on the other hand they managed to make it seemingly look like an actual trailer to a Hollywood movie.

Here is an interesting thought that someone here might know the answer to:
If someone has a copyright character, like say Wonder Woman or Miss Marvel (nee Captain Marvel) and a fan made short film comes out. Can the copyright owner then use that fan made film for promotion of that character?

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Offline John C

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Re: Golden Age Superheroine in fan made trailer
« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2013, 11:31:36 AM »
No, more like nobody is really legitimately allowed to distribute or exploit the work, at least not without permission.  Copyright always goes to the author unless it's explicitly reassigned.  If the work infringes another, that means two owners need to clear it.

That's why you'll sometimes hear about creators asking fans specifically not to send them ideas; if they use something similar, it can be argued they infringed on the fan's submission, even though it was (presumably) legitimately given freely.

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Re: Golden Age Superheroine in fan made trailer
« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2013, 11:42:53 AM »
Okay, my thinking was more along the lines of say DC/Marvel snatching up a fan film and then going "Hey, this actually looks cool guys. Let's publish it ourselves." (There is a rather well done fan made Lobo movie that I keep wishing would get added as a special feature to some DVD set)

And how did Star Wars get away with maintaining copyrights in light of so many fan made films when WB/Disney feel compelled to stomp out these things? Presumably Disney will crush these films as well once they realise the extent and variety out there.

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Re: Golden Age Superheroine in fan made trailer
« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2013, 01:13:22 PM »
Enforcement of copyrights (and registered trademarks) is at the whim of the owner.  It's only common-law trademarks that need to be chased to keep them, as far as I know.

In other words, a business clamps down on derived works where they feel leaving it alone is going to damage their business or on principle, not because they need to do so to maintain legal protection.

(That's why it's always dangerous to rely on "other people got away with it," when using someone else's work.  It may be that the owner of a franchise doesn't care what people do with it, or it may be that the owner analyzed the case and chose not to pursue it, and will be offended by your version.  Larry Niven is probably a good example:  For years, he asserted that everybody was welcome to mess around with his "Known Space" concepts, but then suddenly and loudly changed course, squashing anybody who dared so much as mention the Kzin in a story.  It's totally within his rights to make those calls, assuming all his stories are copyrighted properly.)

In the case you suggest, they can license the material--though that probably goes without saying, since they can ask to license whatever they want--but can't "seize" it or argue that they own it any more than the creator can argue full ownership.