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Offline KevinP

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Pages out of order
« on: June 19, 2011, 05:07:35 PM »
I'm trying to create Archives.  I convert each issue from .cbr to .rar, place the pages I want in a new folder, number them consecutively by selecting all and renaming, put them in a new .rar then rename extension .cbr .  They come out all out of order.  The two series I've done are so badly rearranged that I will probably have to re-extract them.  I don't know if winrar or cbr is doing this.  Thought it was reading 1, 10, 100 as consective so I renamed all pages with 3 digits, 001, 010, 100 but that doesn't work.  How can I name the pages so that .rar / .cbr will display them correctly?

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Pages out of order
« on: June 19, 2011, 05:07:35 PM »

Offline JonTheScanner

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Re: Pages out of order
« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2011, 05:52:47 PM »
What program are you using to rename them?  Some programs use the order the files appear in the order they were written, others let you sort them first by name, size, date, whatever.  (Irfanview for example.) I'd suspect most renaming software will let you sort to the order you want first.

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Re: Pages out of order
« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2011, 06:48:49 PM »
Hmm, hard to tell without seeing it.

If you wanted to upload a small sample of the bad file I could take a look.
Say 5-10 pages?

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Re: Pages out of order
« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2011, 11:23:23 PM »
Hmm, hard to tell without seeing it.

If you wanted to upload a small sample of the bad file I could take a look.
Say 5-10 pages?

will do but cannot get to it till next days off
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Re: Pages out of order
« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2011, 11:26:33 PM »
Ok.  You might also check a file from DCM that you know is in the right order.
Look inside and see how they named the files.

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Re: Pages out of order
« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2011, 05:56:06 AM »
Jon and Yoc make good points. Without seeing them it is hard to tell. It seemed as if you were doing everything right. There can be some internal unseen tags by the program maybe? I have tried many efforts to get mp3 files renamed to play in order on my phone with no success.

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Re: Pages out of order
« Reply #6 on: June 21, 2011, 12:52:44 AM »
Hmm, hard to tell without seeing it.

If you wanted to upload a small sample of the bad file I could take a look.
Say 5-10 pages?

Doing so now with SPACE RANGERS ARCHIVES VOL 0 Part 2.  The pages were numbered using Windows 7 as reef (1).jpg thru reef (107).jpg when I winrar'd them, then changed file extension from .rar to .cbr and they are jumbled.

I've also uploaded SPACE RANGERS VOL 0 Part 1a and 1b ;those are OK but I should have named them SPACE RANGERS ARCHIVES VOL 0 Parts 1a and 1b.  Can you correct that?

Please verify that you received both files 1a and 1b.  I don't recall if I hit Confirm.

Also, I don't know how to add a thumbnail; is that done automatically by my selecting 1 for Number of Thumbnails; is that right?

Hopefully things will go more smoothly after thisand I won't have to barrage you guys with questions.

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« Last Edit: June 21, 2011, 01:02:32 AM by moonled »
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Re: Pages out of order
« Reply #7 on: June 21, 2011, 12:16:13 PM »
Ok Moon. 
We've got the uploads here.
Vol 0 1a is out of order.

Checking your second test file I see this
New folder (1).jpg
New folder (10).jpg
New folder (100).jpg
New folder (100a).jpg
New folder (101).jpg
New folder (102).jpg
New folder (103).jpg
New folder (104).jpg
New folder (105).jpg
New folder (106).jpg
New folder (11).jpg
New folder (12).jpg
New folder (14).jpg
New folder (15).jpg
New folder (16).jpg
New folder (17).jpg
New folder (18).jpg
New folder (19).jpg
New folder (1a).jpg
New folder (2).jpg
etc.

For huge runs in collections like this I suggest simplifying.
Three digits numbers the whole run.  From 001 to 999, don't leave out leading zeroes ever and I'd forget about the brackets altogether.

000-SRAV01a-XXXX, etc

XXX can be anything it's only the starting six matter. 
But don't vary the starting ever within a file.  In a different file you can of course change it to say
000-SVAV02a or whatever to differentiate it.

Varrying anything withing a file opens the possibility of the order changing even if it looks fine on CDisplay.

I don't think you want collections out there that are incorrect page orders so I wont activate the uploads you've done.
If you'd like to retry another test upload feel free.  And when you are confident a re-upload of the full volume is very welcome.

Sorry it's being so difficult on you.   :-[
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Re: Pages out of order
« Reply #8 on: June 21, 2011, 12:18:38 PM »
BTW I found a Fantastic application called Total Commander for things like this.
It's amazing for renaming and renumbering as well as moving files around and even has built in FTP for those that use it.  It even does all my file compaction for me with Zip and Rar files.  (after I set it up of course.)

It's not free but I love it.  I'm betting there are free apps out there for mass renumbering like this though.  It sure saves me a lot of time.

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Re: Pages out of order
« Reply #9 on: June 22, 2011, 02:07:45 AM »
Ok Moon. 
We've got the uploads here.
Vol 0 1a is out of order.


Is Vol 0 1b good, or out of ordered also?

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Re: Pages out of order
« Reply #10 on: June 22, 2011, 01:19:12 PM »
Sorry.  Both were out of order Kevin.
Renaming the files as suggested I hope will solve the problem.
(I feel bad asking, I know all the work needed to do these things.)

In pt1a you jump from the cover - (0) to the first story scan SPACE RANGERS ARCHIVES VOL 0 Part 0 (306).jpg!?

And in the second story page 10 on the scan (173) falls after pg18 (172).  This is very odd behaviour!

Before going for broke PLEASE do another small test file upload so we can confirm you are on the right path.

Given how odd this all is could I suggest just using numbers for file names?
ie 001.jpg, 002.jpg, 003.jpg
It might simply catching what the heck is going on.

Oh, and remind me - are you doing all this on a Mac or a PC?

Thanks,
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Re: Pages out of order
« Reply #11 on: June 22, 2011, 07:21:35 PM »
I'm re-upping Vol 0 1a with the numbering system you suggested.  Looks OK on this end.  If you confirm, I'll re-do 1b and 2.  ...aannd once again I left the word ARCHIVES out of the name.  If this arrives OK I'll re-send it with the correct name.
« Last Edit: June 22, 2011, 07:43:54 PM by moonled »
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Re: Pages out of order
« Reply #12 on: June 22, 2011, 08:01:33 PM »
Ok Moon, it's your call.
When it's done uploading (don't forget Confirm) let me know and I'll check it.
Good luck!

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Re: Pages out of order
« Reply #13 on: June 23, 2011, 12:43:47 PM »
Done!
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Re: Pages out of order
« Reply #14 on: June 23, 2011, 02:50:44 PM »
Yep, been on the site for a few hours M.
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