Jon's uploads

[JonTheScanner]

Out Our Way 1936 Sundays and dailies now on FTP in 3 files.

War on Crime (The Ledger Syndicate strip not the EC comic) coming soon

[Yoc]

Now up, thanks Jon!

[cooperway4]

The tiff files don't seem to want to work in any reader I try. The only thing I found that works is renaming to zip and extracting and then using some image viewer.

Thanks for these. I know compiling these can be a chore and I am very grateful for all the effort involved.

[JonTheScanner]

I understand, but tiffs are much better for storing b&w images than jpgs. They can be losslessly compressed to a smaller size, but still have much better resolution when expanded. There is an initial jpg (a copy of the first file) in each zip for the preview. The uncompressed tiff files are about 40 times as big.

I think maybe pngs work in cbz (or are they cbp) files, but I prefer tiffs. If anyone wants to batch convert these to pngs, they have my blessing. Personally I just store them as individual files.

Glad you enjoy them.

[Yoc]

Prime has uploaded a jpg conversion of the Sundays file gang.

There is a file size limit of about 100mb per file so Tiffs do mean less per file uploaded.
I'm not sure if PNG files work with the system Jon.  I'll have to do a test.

[cooperway4]

What threw me initially was the cbz extension, if it was just zip I wouldn't have even mentioned it.

[Mark Warner]

Hi,

I am probably sticking my nose in where it is not wanted. So apologies at the outset. But in my opinion .png is the way to go on these.

Reasons

1) cdisplay and I guess other readers handle them
2) php (which again I guess that you are using for the DCM viewer has .png functions so even if your viewer currently doesn't support them it is an easy change to make. I did it on CB+ a few months back.
3) .png gives better compression and is lossless . I just did a test on oow360105S.tiff
oow360105S.tiff in the archive is 1,079,954 bytes
I converted this to .png and then ran pngout a great utility that maximizes compression the end result 868,352 bytes. Again this may not make any difference to the archive file size as the .png is now very compressed, but it is quite a saving in the unzipped files.

As an aside I am becoming quite a fan of .png's. Especially for small graphics on websites that look OK with 256 colors. Although a bit bigger than the corresponding .jpg they just look that bit cleaner.

That's my nerdishness done for the day

[Yoc]

Ok Jon.
I did a PNG test.  Yes, you can use it.  It works with CDisplay and the PREVIEW feature on DCM.
It does NOT work with the cover thumbnail feature.  It shows as a black cover.  Perhaps CaptDJ will add that ability someday.
So, if you want a cover to appear please continue to make the first file a jpg.
I suggest repeating it again as a PNG afterwards if you want the same quality as the following files.
At least your final cbz file sizes wont be as massive.

-Yoc

[Yoc]

Jon, sorry but I'll have to delete your Sundays upload.
The giant cover thumbnail chokes that feature for all uploads afterwards so they are stuck at 'No Cover Yet.'
I'll have to delete his file to fix things.
Sorry  

I've also found the TIFF files do not work with the PREVIEW feature.  Only the first jpg file will show.
For now I hope you will consider using jpgs or PNG files for future uploads.

[JonTheScanner]

I've used irfanview to do a batch conversion of the tiffs to pngs and have sent a new Sunday file via ftp to the site.

But I have some questions.

What am I doing when I request a compression level? I'd like a lossless compression so I'd think I couldn't select a level of compression. I can't select 0 compression as the files are huge. A 6 (default) compression appears to be lossless, at least there are no gray edges when I look at a greatly expanded version in Gimp (Note Irfan view does show gray artifacts, but I think it's just that program as it does so with the Tiffs as well. In any case this is what I used.

Do I use PNGOUT? If so there are a bewildering set of options to chose from. Anyone have any ideas?

[Yoc]

Sorry Jon, I just used the default 6.
Try Google or Wiki maybe?

[John C]

I don't know anything specific about IfranView, Jon, but PNG's compression is lossless no matter the level.  I think the levels are a throwback to the old days when compression and decompression took a long time and tied up the entire computer.  Low levels of compression produce larger files, but "easier" to decompress.  However, with today's computers, the space is probably much more important.

[Yoc]

As his contribution to the DCM Halloween Event our own Jon here sent us the following classic newspaper strips, all well worth a look!


Out Our Way 1932
Out Our Way 1932 -Sundays -fixed
Rookie_from_13th_Squad -fixed
Between_Shots (1917-1919)
War on Crime J1-66 Tri-State Gang 11-1-1937 to 1-22-1938
War on Crime H1-48 Glen Applegate & Robert Suhay 9-6 to 10-30-37
War on Crime G1-42 Harry Brunette 7-19 to 9-4-1937
War on Crime F1-42 Million Dollar Robbery 5-31 to 7-17-19937
War on Crime E1-60 Weyerhauser Kidnapping 3-22 to 5-29-1937
War on Crime D1-108 Barker Brothers 11-16-1936 to 3-20-1937 -fixed
War on Crime C1-78 Dillinger Aug 17 to Nov 14 1936
War on Crime B1-30 Pretty Boy Floyd Jul 13 to Aug 15 1936
War on Crime A1-36 Urshel Kidnapping Case - Jun 1 to Jul 11 1936
War on Crime 00 Introduction May 18 to May 30 1936 -fixed

[Yoc]

Jon,
Just a reminder, that first jpg image you add for our sake.  Could you please make sure it's no more than 2mb in file size?
Really large jpgs will choke the auto cover thumbnail feature and any new uploads from that point will just show 'no cover yet.'  It was that sign that told me we had a problem with one of your newspaper strips.  All black thumbnails only show for PNG files.

Thanks again for all the uploads you've given us!
-Yoc

[JonTheScanner]

Another year of Out Our Way, 1929, has been FTPed to the site. Sundays and dailies in different files.  .png files with a .jpg repeat of the lead file for a "cover" image.