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Re: From the Phil Barnhart Collection...
« Reply #15 on: June 18, 2012, 10:06:57 AM »
Next to coming soon from Phil will be Scoop Comics #1 and #3...      WOW..    :o

They will go with my Scoop #2 that I'm working on now

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Re: From the Phil Barnhart Collection...
« Reply #15 on: June 18, 2012, 10:06:57 AM »

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Re: From the Phil Barnhart Collection...
« Reply #16 on: June 18, 2012, 10:09:20 AM »
Next to coming soon from Phil will be Scoop Comics #1 and #3...      WOW..    :o

They will go with my Scoop #2 that I'm working on now
(Besides the Scoop 1 and 3 I asked for Suspense Comics 1-3)
FROM PHIL  :
No problem on the Scoops.  I have to think about the Suspense issues a bit.  My #3 is missing the centerfold story which is apparently very common for that issue.  The first few issues of Suspense, Terrific, Catman, and I think even some Capt Aero books all had this weird page count (56 pages).  They glued a half folio to the front side of a folio spread on 3 folios for those books.  My own theory is that Suspense #3s’ with and without the centerfold story present are both complete issues, some of them just did not get bound with that centerfold story.  Either the entire story is missing or it is there.  So why don’t we see that with a bunch of other books constructed the same way?  When I talked to L.B. Cole about that he expressed surprise, he said why would you even do that?  That would just be inefficient and take more money/time for binding each book.  I think Suspense #3 is the last book built that way, and this was about the time L.B. Cole became the art director there.
 
Coincidentally that centerfold story was done by L.B. Cole, 83 Days on a Life Raft.  Suspense #3 is April 1944.  Cole’s first cover in comics was Terrific #3, May 1944.  Suspense #4 is June 1944, also a Cole cover.  You may have noticed the odd page count if you scanned any of the early Terrific issues.

I have a document written up that covers the entire Suspense and Terrific runs, page counts, titles of stories, etc…   I will provide a copy of that to you.

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Re: From the Phil Barnhart Collection...
« Reply #17 on: June 18, 2012, 03:12:10 PM »
Very interesting read - an I did notice the strange page count in the past and wondered how or why.
I hope he lets us scan them one day.

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Re: From the Phil Barnhart Collection...
« Reply #18 on: June 19, 2012, 10:46:01 AM »
From Phil:  I took a look at the Scoop #2 and it has a King Kola add, the x-ray machine version.  This is the same add that is on the back cover of Dynamic Comics #3.  So if you have the Dynamic #3, then you have a scan of this ad.  Guess I should have looked at the inside of the back cover too, you don’t have that I imagine.  I brought all my old notes in.  I will run them through the scanner here at work and turn them into acrobat files.
 
I had the entire run of Captain Aero at one time.  I was doing some research to write an article about Charles Quinlan for the Comic Book Marketplace, but never got around to completing it before Gary Carter left the magazine.  I had shared some information with his son (Quinlan) and wife, and actually sent them a few of the Captain Aero comics, they surprisingly had none of his original art or any of the many published comics.  So anyhoo, from #1 through #10 they are all 64 page books.  Then with #11 (September 1943) they go to this wonky 56 page book count, this is the weird glued in single page to 4 folios construction/binding method.  They stay as 56 page count books until #15 (June 1944) and then they go to 48 page count books.   

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Re: From the Phil Barnhart Collection...
« Reply #19 on: June 19, 2012, 01:13:03 PM »
Thanks for the info Phil, wish you'd join us here!

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Phil Barnhart - Suspense and Terrific notes.PDF now up!
« Reply #20 on: June 20, 2012, 10:43:14 AM »
Hi Gang,
Phil has given permission for us to share his very detailed notes on the Holyoke Suspense and Terrific Comic series.

ATTN Narf and Henry -
This has got a lot of info in this that GCD will especially want to integrate into their records.

It even includes a comment from L.B. Cole himself about his first cover work for the publisher!

For now it's in the Holyoke section but this might change if Phil decides to send more items like this.

Enjoy!
-Yoc

NOTE - this is a PDF document, you will need an app to read it.

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Re: From the Phil Barnhart Collection...
« Reply #21 on: June 20, 2012, 10:53:34 AM »
I got it thanks. With CB+ I don't spend much time on GCD any more but I will try to get info up

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Re: From the Phil Barnhart Collection...
« Reply #22 on: June 20, 2012, 02:16:15 PM »
Thanks Narf.  I'm sure if you can't add it to GCD you know who to pass it along to that will.
Some Very informative info here, especially about the odd-ball 56pg issues they did.

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Re: From the Phil Barnhart Collection...
« Reply #23 on: June 20, 2012, 03:56:36 PM »
Thanks Narf.  I'm sure if you can't add it to GCD you know who to pass it along to that will.
Some Very informative info here, especially about the odd-ball 56pg issues they did.
These war-time, non multiple-of-16-page comics were much more common than you're making them out to be, Yoc. Fiction House for one had many such issues. Not really so "odd-ball" at all, but simply a reaction to war-time paper rationing. And I'd have to check my Temersons, which I'm unable to access at this moment, but I believe the method was not to "glue pages to tabs" but to have the "tab" extend over the staple fold so that a book could still be machine collated and stapled. It was VERY unlikely that there was "hand assembling" done. BUT, that is the way it DID work at Fiction House - Temerson might have been different.

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Re: From the Phil Barnhart Collection...
« Reply #24 on: June 22, 2012, 12:01:27 PM »
Now up from Phil's Collection -
Another Cat-Man!

Cat-Man Comics #28 - c2c - from rangerhouse and loftypilot


Enjoy!
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Re: From the Phil Barnhart Collection...
« Reply #25 on: June 22, 2012, 12:03:36 PM »
Nice,  Cat-Man getting close... 

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Re: From the Phil Barnhart Collection...
« Reply #26 on: June 22, 2012, 12:11:03 PM »
19 in our future.... after a Master is finished.

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Re: From the Phil Barnhart Collection...
« Reply #27 on: June 26, 2012, 03:07:57 AM »
Now uploaded

Scoop Comics 001 (2c)
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From the Phil Barnhart Collection (with much thanks)

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Re: From the Phil Barnhart Collection...
« Reply #28 on: June 26, 2012, 08:12:55 AM »
Now uploaded

Scoop Comics 003 (c2c) (diff ver.)
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From the Phil Barnhart Collection (with much thanks)

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Re: From the Phil Barnhart Collection...
« Reply #29 on: June 26, 2012, 08:42:48 AM »
Thanks very much ML!