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paw broon:
Off topic but I have to correct the error I made re. Pathfinders in Space. This wasn't a BBC serial, rather it was on ITV (the commercial channel) and made by ABC, a part of ITV. The company was run by the cinema chain, ABC. Perhaps of no importance to many on here but if some British fans stumbled on such a glaring mistake, I'd get letters.
"But you're right, when I'm reading the older stories, I don't think anything of it, because it's just part of the setting. It's only a problem when the writer spends time either mocking or "fixing" the unrealistic aspects of older comics--usually things that don't need fixing, like giving some hero a reason to use his powers responsibly--that I start looking at how even weirder it looks for heroes to collect trophies, build secret fortresses, and elect leaders, and that part is still taken as an article of faith." John C.
Yes, you're right. And that was then, this is now. But the old adage still apples - if it's not broken, don't fix it. I realise things are supposed to move with the times but I'm not sure the whole idea of superheroes is anything other than silly when they are involved in such modern recognisable worlds, with so much serious "realism". Even updating traditional, non-superhero franchises can be at the least embarrasing. When DC Thomson decided to overhaul The Broons in The Sunday Post, they brought in some contentious issues and some of the humour from this incredibly popular strip went away. Mind you, they got a lot of publicity, so perhaps the publishers were happy. Heaven only knows what deleterious effects would would have occurred had someone decided to update Tintin with mobile phones, personal problems, orientation insecurities etc. It's simply beautifully done, exciting, humourous fun and entertainment as it is. (I haven't seen the film, so maybe they have).
John C:
--- Quote from: paw broon on April 01, 2012, 10:46:17 AM ---I realise things are supposed to move with the times but I'm not sure the whole idea of superheroes is anything other than silly when they are involved in such modern recognisable worlds, with so much serious "realism". Even updating traditional, non-superhero franchises can be at the least embarrasing.
--- End quote ---
I wonder if that's the skill and leanings of the people doing the work, though. I mean, look how many times we hear that Warner wants to reboot the Superman franchise as something "darker." That doesn't serve the character well at all, and it's guaranteed to produce a mediocre movie.
Your mention of Tintin's (thankfully hypothetical) insecurities is a big part of that. I know everybody goes through times where they question themselves, but something writers don't seem to realize is that someone who does that all the time isn't interesting at all.
Still, there's a ring of truth to obsolescence. I don't think it's really true in a permanent sense (I hope not, at least), but western culture has become more blindly authoritative. Where superheroes were once social activists and super-muckrakers, the Comics Code turned them into police deputies. I apologize for edging too political in advance, but I can easily see an ambivalence to superheroes in a world that still cheers the release of the Pentagon Papers but wants to crush Wikileaks.
How does a character balance the need to do the right thing where the common wisdom seems to be that acting your conscience is some sort of neo-fascism? It's a hard question, but it's a series I'd love to read.
narfstar:
from elsewhere I had not luck
Gary Kertz' daughter Sheri Roll is looking for copies of her father's
work. He appears to have worked for the Disney studio in the US,
though his work has apparently only been published outside the US.
Here is inducks' index for him:
http://coa.inducks.org/creator.php?c=Gary+Kertz&c1=date
inducks thinks he may be the same person listed as Gary Kurtz
http://coa.inducks.org/creator.php?c=GKu&c1=date
Can anyone hook her up with copies of any of these stories or dealers
who can supply her with copies?
paw broon:
As there are Portuguese, French and German comics on the your links, you're increasing the chances of finding examples. However, I've had a quick search and come up with nothing but there are so many shops all over Europe which stock the Ducks that something must show up. I always look here as early as possible when searching for older stuff:-
http://stores.ebay.com/bdverdeau?_trksid=p4340.l2563.
If anything were to turn up, remember JVJ is in Paris and might be able to help.
paw broon:
Back to Vaillant's question re ww2, naziism etc. in case some of you haven't seen this, here's some Marten Toonder material from that period:-
http://lambiek.net/dutchcomics/1940.htm
And here's a link to a Tom Poes page. Surely one of the great strips of its type and up there with Rupert Bear.
http://striptekenaar.weblog.nl/geen-categorie/de-makers-van-de-tom-poes-dagstrip/
Lambiek on Rupert and Bestall :-
http://www.lambiek.net/artists/b/bestall.htm
(very difficult to find examples of the Rupert strip as copyright is tightly guarded by Express newspapers)
As this an international section, perhaps we should be taking a look at old Dutch strips and comics - so much to enjoy.
And what about all those French recits complets and pocket libraries?
And the huge amount of Spanish comics material, some of it e.g. El Capitan Truano; El Guerrero del Antifaz; El Jabato being of excellent quality and highly entertaining.
Or is this me being selfish about my own passions?
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