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John C:
Oh, yes, I know it's about the art. That's what I appreciate about it, in fact, and don't have a cylinder PLAYER. You know...yet.
As for the project, I take a few minutes every night to check out Kickstarter to see if there's anything interesting running and what rewards are offered for pledges. I have about a dozen CDs and DVDs coming, a handful of games, some concerts to go to, and so forth.
This guy, I actually found because I pledged to another of his projects, a reprint of the (bringing this back within the bounds of a comic-oriented discussion) "Cursed Pirate Girl" graphic novel, which struck me as interesting. But I really can't resist owning a new, professionally-produced wax cylinder, just on principle. It's a different artform, especially when you remove the microphone.
And part of me also completely agrees with advances, but figure that'll never happen if there's no proven market.
(And I also have to agree on the camera phones. Unless "getting the picture" is the top priority, just relax and take in the view! But then, I get annoyed when I see people in the park jogging with their headphones, sunglasses, and smartphone running. If you're not going to look up, why did you go to the park? You could've just jogged around your coffee table, at that point.)
JVJ (RIP):
--- Quote from: John C on June 17, 2011, 03:40:58 PM ---Oh, yes, I know it's about the art. That's what I appreciate about it, in fact, and don't have a cylinder PLAYER. You know...yet.
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Now, THAT'S a quest and a project for you. The demand can't be very high, but I'll bet the supply is even lower.
--- Quote ---As for the project, I take a few minutes every night to check out Kickstarter to see if there's anything interesting running and what rewards are offered for pledges. I have about a dozen CDs and DVDs coming, a handful of games, some concerts to go to, and so forth.
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It's enough for me to actually check my email and GAC and DCM. Anything else is just asking for trouble, in MY life.
--- Quote ---... But I really can't resist owning a new, professionally-produced wax cylinder, just on principle. It's a different artform, especially when you remove the microphone.
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I can actually understand the appeal of a real cylinder. It's equivalent to my acquiring an actual wood-engraved block for a Gustave Doré illustrated book from 1873. Who WOULDN'T want it?
--- Quote ---And part of me also completely agrees with advances, but figure that'll never happen if there's no proven market.
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No, no proven market, but that would just be the appeal to me. If you're going to recreate an obsolete technology/art just for the hell of it, I'd want to see what I could do better without changing the basic approach. After all, we HAVE learned a few things in the last century that might be applicable. Just my personal bent...
--- Quote ---(And I also have to agree on the camera phones. Unless "getting the picture" is the top priority, just relax and take in the view! But then, I get annoyed when I see people in the park jogging with their headphones, sunglasses, and smartphone running. If you're not going to look up, why did you go to the park? You could've just jogged around your coffee table, at that point.)
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You're absolutely right! The headphones/glasses/phones etc. make perfect sense if you're on a treadmill in a basement gym, but, gee, out in the REAL world, it seems like a total waste. Real life in that real world has a distinct advantage to me. Perhaps we're just in an old-fashioned minority. After all, you have a wax cylinder on the way and I've got a wood-engraved block on my mantle.
Stay sane. (|:{>
John C:
--- Quote from: JVJ on June 17, 2011, 04:54:04 PM ---
--- Quote from: John C on June 17, 2011, 03:40:58 PM ---Oh, yes, I know it's about the art. That's what I appreciate about it, in fact, and don't have a cylinder PLAYER. You know...yet.
--- End quote ---
Now, THAT'S a quest and a project for you. The demand can't be very high, but I'll bet the supply is even lower.
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A quick check on eBay looks like they run from about two to seven hundred dollars. Not terrible (for no work put in shopping), but a little higher than I'd spend just now.
However, I also see that the cylinders themselves run about two dollars apiece, and now I wonder (back to the "with modern technology" idea) if it'd be easier to build something to play non-destructively. After all, the track is physical, and a small camera/microscope rig should get enough information to reproduce the sound.
Hm? Oh, sorry. I get like this, sometimes...
--- Quote from: JVJ on June 17, 2011, 04:54:04 PM ---I can actually understand the appeal of a real cylinder. It's equivalent to my acquiring an actual wood-engraved block for a Gustave Doré illustrated book from 1873. Who WOULDN'T want it?
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Exactly. Certain things are just too unique to...allow to fall into someone else's hands, I guess...
--- Quote from: JVJ on June 17, 2011, 04:54:04 PM ---No, no proven market, but that would just be the appeal to me. If you're going to recreate an obsolete technology/art just for the hell of it, I'd want to see what I could do better without changing the basic approach. After all, we HAVE learned a few things in the last century that might be applicable. Just my personal bent...
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No, what I meant was that one successful project is likely to spawn copycats. One of those musicians, to cut costs, might wonder what can be used to replace the wax. (I admit, I try to spend money strategically. Every once in a while, the dominoes start falling and I get my moment of smug satisfaction when the thing I actually wanted shows up.)
--- Quote from: JVJ on June 17, 2011, 04:54:04 PM ---Stay sane. (|:{>
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Heh. Is that the modern equivalent to "may you live in interesting times"?
narfstar:
My wife and I went to see Super 8 today. She liked it a lot more than I did. She usually does not over think things as much as I do. The action was enjoyable for its own sake. I could not get over all the stupid elements and silly actions. Those things can bug me enough not to really like a movie. I did not dislike it but could not recommend it to those who like their movies to be a little more sensible.
Roygbiv666:
--- Quote from: John C on June 18, 2011, 05:43:25 AM ---
--- Quote from: JVJ on June 17, 2011, 04:54:04 PM ---
--- Quote from: John C on June 17, 2011, 03:40:58 PM ---Oh, yes, I know it's about the art. That's what I appreciate about it, in fact, and don't have a cylinder PLAYER. You know...yet.
--- End quote ---
Now, THAT'S a quest and a project for you. The demand can't be very high, but I'll bet the supply is even lower.
--- End quote ---
A quick check on eBay looks like they run from about two to seven hundred dollars. Not terrible (for no work put in shopping), but a little higher than I'd spend just now.
However, I also see that the cylinders themselves run about two dollars apiece, and now I wonder (back to the "with modern technology" idea) if it'd be easier to build something to play non-destructively. After all, the track is physical, and a small camera/microscope rig should get enough information to reproduce the sound.
Hm? Oh, sorry. I get like this, sometimes...
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I think those are called CDs.
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