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KevinP:
I'm loving the Marvel movies, and the latest GL trailer has him doing some very Silver Age things with his ring, giant springs and catapults besides that big stupid phallic machinegun.  The monster, though, looks like one of those Black Snakes you light on the 4th of July and watch it grow.  Only bigger. I don't even care about the differences between the movies and the comics, because they get the spirit of the originals.  Adventure, fun and optimism.  Which is more than I can say for the comics now. 

Hated STAR TREK, THE GREEN HORNET and THE SPIRIT movies because they totally and deliberately ignored the spirit of the properties. ST because it had to be an action flick - ST:TOS was a drama -, GH because it couldn't take heroes seriously, and THE SPIRIT because Frank Miller made his own vision instead of Eisner's.  All three underestimated the audience.  Abrams thinks people only want smartass characters and big explosions and won't notice plot black holes - like Kirk just walking into Starfleet and getting aboard with no application, testing or screening.  Not even a physical.  Rogen thinks we're too cynical to accept a hero at face value.  And Miller either doesn't think we can appreciate the subtle humor and humanity of the strip (or more likely, had no clue how to handle it.)

Anyway, I'm ranting, when my original comment was just gonna ask: anybody else find it funny that the stories that got us laughed at for reading in high school are now the hottest thing in popular culture?

kevin

John C:

--- Quote from: moonled on June 15, 2011, 10:44:39 PM ---Anyway, I'm ranting, when my original comment was just gonna ask: anybody else find it funny that the stories that got us laughed at for reading in high school are now the hottest thing in popular culture?

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Analytically, I'm torn.  I mean, I know that every generation's counter-culture basically becomes pop culture for the next generation as it gets sanitized and homogenized, so it's partly to be expected.

But all the same...where the heck did all the nerds go?  I mean, when the captain of the football team can rattle off members of the Justice League and gets excited about buying a new computer (even if disguised as a phone), there's probably less of a draw for the kids who feel (or want to feel) excluded.

And by the same token, when's the last time you saw the stereotypical nerd out in public?  Back when I was growing up, you couldn't swing a pocket protector (which was before my time, actually) without hitting a smelly, morbidly obese kid (or adult) in thick glasses clutching his Japanese flashcards.  But most of my jobs (as a programmer, no less, or teaching programmers) look like they're behind the scenes at an Old Navy catalog.

Was there a pogrom and nobody invited me?  (Sniff) Isn't that always the way...

narfstar:
Since Bill Gates most people have come to accept nerds more because basically they rule the world through computers.

John C:
B-but...they're all into sports and stuff.  It's creepy!

Actually, my question is a little broader than that in the "what's today's comic books?" sense.  I mean, somewhere, the disenfranchised hang out late on weekends and talk about stuff in painstaking detail.  It wasn't new when any of us were kids, and it didn't stop just because the first Spidey movie made a ton of money.

I think this may well be the ultimate sign of getting old:  That point when you can't think of anything people might do that isn't mainstream...

Yoc:
This kinda reminds me of tattoos and body piercings.  Somewhere in the last 20 years they've gotten Very Mainstream.  I'm seeing 60 year olds with 'tats' now!
Smoking is uncool by most standards so teens will still gravitate to that and Lady Gaga has to do some pretty radical things to raise our eyebrows.  (is Marilyn Manson jealous you think?)  So what does today's 'young rebel' do to rebel?
Anyone with teenagers care to reply?

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