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[rangerhouse]

Punch Comics #11 ready....   #23 someday...

[Geo (RIP)]

Thanks RH.

Geo

[rangerhouse]

Punch Comics #11 ready....   #23 someday...

I seems a good chance that Punch Comics #11 isn't Punch Comics #11      This was the number written on cover and I only assumed.   So if someone comes up with the correct issue number or confirms   Let me know so I can update cover/info.

I doesnt match overstreet and many online resources.

Thanks RH

[Yoc]

Hi RH,
Was the cover detached from the insides or does the book look restored?  ie newer staples?
Have you checked the contents against the listing for it inside the KELTNER INDEX?  I use the index to double check coverless or other questionable books especially if the GCD listing doesn't list story titles or other identifiable contents to nail down a mystery book.

http://digitalcomicmuseum.com/forum/index.php/topic,1944.0.html

Checking it against GCD's very detailed listing it doesn't list 'Johnny on the Spot' as part of #11 so one would suspect you've got another issue with a #11 cover on it.  I've tried to check the text story title in a Story search on GCD but 'Devil's Decoy' only shows up on Crime Reporter 2 (St. John) which hasn't been scanned yet.

Checking your scan against those on DCM I haven't seen anything the same so you can cross off yours as being any of #13,14,16 but it Could be any of #15, 17-19 or 22 just listing books with 'Johnny on the Spot' stories we haven't seen yet.  If you check the other features page counts again the Keltner Index listing for Punch Comics you might narrow it down more.  But for now I'll rename your #11 to #nn until you can someday nail down exactly which issue it is.

GL!

[movielover]

Looking at the Keltner Index comes up with this would be an combination of various issues,
Gay Desperado is listed for 13 and 14 only. Both are 6 pages.
Crime on the Run is only in issues 11 and 18, otherwise its called Manhunters - Crime on the Run. This story is 6 pages which would make it from 18.
Johnny on the Spot is 7 pages so it would be from 13 or 22.
Rocketman is 7 pages so it would be from 9, 10, 11 or 13 .
Happy Landing is 4 pages so it would be from 9, 10, 11, 13 or 17.
Master key is 7 pages so it would be from 11 or 13.
Punch and Cutey looks like 7 pages and another page from another story which would make it from 10-14 or 17, there is no 8 page story listed.

Looking at the site, Master Key from 13 is on site, so it probably is from 11.
Gay Desperado is probably from 13 as 14 is on site.

Crime on the Run also appears in Snap Comics #9 (unscanned)
Gay Desperado also appears in Red Seal #14, 15, 16, 17, 18 and 20 at 6 pages. 16-18 and 20 the story is unscanned so it could possibly be from one of these.

[Yoc]

Thanks ML, isn't this fun?  Seriously, I enjoy the hunt for books like this!   

It's sounding pretty likely that RH shared a scan of Punch 13 doesn't it?
What complicates this is we've reportedly got a scan for one story from Punch 13.  When single stories are shared it's hard to know for sure they were from the issue mentioned, especially in this case where Bill Nolan, the story scanner, is not a member of the site to ask if he did it from a confirmed issue of Punch 13.

I'll leave this as Punch nn but add a note it's likely one of the books you mentioned.

[Yoc]

Hey RH,
Did you buy this COVERLESS and add the fc and bc from Heritage?

Just curious,
-Yoc

[movielover]

13 doesn't have Crime on the Run. So I think someone just put some stories together from various issues with 13 being a common number for 5 of the stories (6 if you include Master Key), but no way of knowing for sure without an actual complete 13.  

Crime on the Run appears to use 3 different names in the Punch series.
Manhunters in 10 and 14
Crime on the Run in 11 and 18
Manhunters - Crime on the Run in 13, 17, 19 and 20

Looking at freddyfly's #14 seems to rule out, based on the way the title appears to have been done, #'s 13, 17, 19 and 20 most likely leaving the story from #18.

Plus 11 has Little Nemo and Sky Chief which aren't present.

It's a mess.  

[Yoc]

I've heard of contents getting a false cover but never of various contents being merged into a new single comic.  Giant editions of multiple comics sure but not what you're suggesting ML.  But I suppose it's possible.  Until RH tell us more about the original book's condition (new staples?  etc) I guess we'll have to leave it as a mystery.

[movielover]

It was just a guess, but I was basing the Crime on the Run on the way Manhunters was in #14, where they have Manhunters, then a smaller title under it and took a wild guess that they would have done the same with the 13, 17, 19 and 20. I could be wrong for all I know.   

[rangerhouse]

1.  Staple look fine and no replaced or added
2.  Many of the features are last page and page behind it starts a new page  (appears nothing added or changed)
3.  Book appears complete
4.  This was purchased via ebay coverless as Issue 11
5.   Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[Yoc]

It's a genuine mystery all right.
This might also highlight potential problems with inaccuracies in the Keltner Index or GCD indexers using coverless books in their index assuming issue numbers based on their own guess or OUR guesses.  I've seen at least one incorrect GCD entry totally based on our mistake.

[rangerhouse]

Excellent,.............!!!!!!!!!!!!!   

I'm glad I purchased NOW.. lol

[freddyfly]

I've gotta vote for #13. 11 & 18 are fully indexed (they don't look like guesses) at the gcdb (besides, 18 has Cap Courage).
The only flaw is yoc's Master Key via Bill Nolan, so if that's wrong, then everything else falls into place for #13.
On the other hand, I have another coverless Punch to upload... it's the one with the Rocketman story yoc formerly id'd as #18. I WAS sure it's #15, until I looked at Keltner which says 15 is a 36-pager; but mine is 52 (and has Crime on the Run). Mine also has Jungletown Showboat, which Keltner says is only in 2 issues of Dynamic!
So, if Keltner is right about 15 and about all the other page counts, my issue doesn't exist!

How about this: could there be 2 different versions of 15-6: one 36 pgs and one 52 pages? There's a precedent for this: several Mighty Mouses (Mice?) have 2 such versions.

[Yoc]

Oh wow, now there's TWO mystery issues of Punch?!?   
Isn't this fun?