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Holyoke is a Myth...
Bob Hughes:
Mike Feldman sees a connection between Speed Comics and Speed Pulps- the successor to the Spicy line.
I can't find this connection, other than Barreaux (did I spell it right that time?). I don't even think the time periods match.
The Speed magazines according to the Fiction Mags index were still published by Trojan.
Henry Andrews (fox_centaur):
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--- Quote from: JVJ on April 09, 2010, 04:59:24 PM ---I just changed "my" Helnit listings for Green Hornet to Bob's Green Hornet Pub. Co. based on my apparently erroneously belief that HE had more and better info than I. I've changed them back to Helnit(?) until we get confirmation one way or the other.
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Bob might have something- we'll see what he says :-) But the GCD record has it as Helnit for #1 and Green Hornet Pub. Co. for #2-6, so he might have just used that. I'm as skeptical of that as I am of any other Temerson/Carnahan/Holyoke data that hasn't been gone over either in the thread on gcd-main earlier this year or in this thread :-)
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The Green Hornet Pub co. stuff came from Keltner's index, which has always seemed to be pretty accurate, as far as it goes.
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Keltner's index is wonderful, and one of my favorite resources, but it's got errors just like any large project (and not just in the groupings). The indicia publishers listed for several Chesler books are wrong, as discussed on gcd-main around the new year (the GCD now has all of those set correctly, although the whole "surrogate" question is still open on some, and a few are not grouped properly). Also, Keltner's issue/volume numbers for Cat-Man have several errors, and I believe his index is the source of Narrative, Aviation Press and Bilbara being improperly grouped, as well as being the first place I saw the "Captain Aero continues from Samson" theory. That plus the one scanned copyright statement listing Helnit makes me skeptical.
JVJ (RIP):
Hames Ware and I refer to ourselves as "VWinc" with inc standing for Information NEWLY Compiled. Copying information that was compiled 40 years ago is NOT research. Sure, it might be right, but it also might be a mistake or a misinterpretation. That's why I'm currently limiting myself to, at most, second hand information. Either I have seen the books or the scans or someone I trust has seen them. I hope that this thread will lead to an update of what is considered "known" about this topic, and I heartily thank all of those participating.
One thing I would LOVE to see is the entire article that Will Murray found in the April issue of Writer's Digest. Does anyone have a scan of that?
--- Quote ---Champion #6 Adolphe Barreaux studio material begins to appear.
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This is erroneous on your Temerson page, Bob. Barreaux is working in Champion as early as issue #3 (Jan. 1940).
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Bob Hughes:
--- Quote ---Champion #6 Adolphe Barreaux studio material begins to appear.
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--- Quote ---This is erroneous on your Temerson page, Bob. Barreaux is working in Champion as early as issue #3 (Jan. 1940).
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You're correct of course. The whole page is a work in progress as I manage to find and look at the originals. First hand obseravation is always better than second hand, or third hand, or God help us, Wikipedia.
JVJ (RIP):
Several of my earliest Champs and Speeds are being scanned by OtherEric on GAC, Bob, so you might have some more first hand access soon.
I would never look at Wikipedia for information on such things. Without provenance, the data is untrustworthy.
Speaking of which, do you have the Writer's Digest information (the raw scan or photocopy or whatever) that Will Murray provided you with? I really would love to see it.
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