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Holyoke is a Myth...
Bob Hughes:
What does "Temerson go(es) with them." mean?
Quinlan and Temerson continue to produce Cat-Man and Captain Aero under Holyoke. This is definitely visible with Quinlan's contributions. I can't lay hands on direct evidence for Temerson, although Bob might have something
(how do I do quotes in this system?)
There's a letter from Allen Ulmer (not Ullman-not a relative, but a Blue Beetle artist) talking about Temerson being at Holyoke and maybe part owner. It's around here somewhere's. Should nail down a copy so it won't float away.
Barreaux may be producing material for Champion/Champ earlier than I thought. It's hard to pin shops down.
I will investigate further.
Greenwald may be a front for the printer or the distributor, keeping the titles in production until a new sucker can be found to buy them (Harvey). Other than that, I don't "know" anything about him. All this stuff I read about a connection between Temerson and Donenfeld appears to be total hot air. The only documented connection I've found is that they sued each other. Rosefeld is what it said in my source. (Uncovered by Douglas Ellis). A lot of these people changed the spelling of their names frequently.
bchat:
--- Quote from: Bob Hughes on April 07, 2010, 10:03:22 PM ---
There's a letter from Allen Ulmer (not Ullman-not a relative, but a Blue Beetle artist) talking about Temerson being at Holyoke and maybe part owner. It's around here somewhere's. Should nail down a copy so it won't float away.
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Is this what you're referring to:
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_kZwgYcSrHR8/S71hOWZ2ntI/AAAAAAAABYc/DtrfM6lRgmo/s800/letter%20from%20allen%20ullmer.jpg
--- Quote from: Bob Hughes on April 07, 2010, 10:03:22 PM ---
(how do I do quotes in this system?)
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Use the button that looks like a comic dialogue box, or type (without spaces) "[ quote ]" & "[ /quote ]" with the quoted text in-between the "quotes".
Henry Andrews (fox_centaur):
--- Quote from: Bob Hughes on April 07, 2010, 10:03:22 PM --- (how do I do quotes in this system?)
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There's a quote link at the top right of each post when you're logged in. It will put that message in the edit box in quote tags.
--- Quote from: Bob Hughes on April 07, 2010, 10:03:22 PM ---There's a letter from Allen Ulmer (not Ullman-not a relative, but a Blue Beetle artist) talking about Temerson being at Holyoke and maybe part owner. It's around here somewhere's. Should nail down a copy so it won't float away.
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Yes, that Ulmer I know, although I'd forgotten it directly connected Temerson and Holyoke. Good to know.
--- Quote from: Bob Hughes on April 07, 2010, 10:03:22 PM ---Barreaux may be producing material for Champion/Champ earlier than I thought. It's hard to pin shops down.
I will investigate further.
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The GCD doesn't have any Quinlan credits in Champion. Our indexes might just be sparse there, but we have plenty of credits for him in the other two Carnahan titles. Champion seems to be different from Cyclone and O.K., somewhat like how Brookwood is different from Tem and Nita. Don't know if there's any deeper meaning to that- was Greenwald (or whoever he represents) involved in those two earlier? Was that why they went to him (assuming we can ever get evidence of Speed #12 and 13 being published by Greenwald in the form of "Speed Publishing Co.")?
--- Quote from: Bob Hughes on April 07, 2010, 10:03:22 PM ---Greenwald may be a front for the printer or the distributor, keeping the titles in production until a new sucker can be found to buy them (Harvey). Other than that, I don't "know" anything about him. All this stuff I read about a connection between Temerson and Donenfeld appears to be total hot air. The only documented connection I've found is that they sued each other. Rosefeld is what it said in my source. (Uncovered by Douglas Ellis). A lot of these people changed the spelling of their names frequently.
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I seem to recall that someone on gcd-main (Steven Rowe, perhaps?) came up with a connection between Greenwald and P.D.C., the distributor. But i don't recall what that connection was.
JVJ (RIP):
I didn't ask about "feld" or "field" - the site lists "Rosefeld" (no N). It that a typo or does the indicia spell in without the "N"?
Quinlan certainly continues to produce Catman, but what evidence is there for Temerson's continued involvement? I've seen the Ulmer letter,
http://boards.collectors-society.com/attachments/90988.jpgand my take on it is not that Ulmer is saying that Temerson is at Holyoke. Unless you know of another letter, I'm still very leery of placing Temerson the man at Holyoke the publisher.
You do quotes using left bracket, the word quote, right bracket. End the quote with the same adding the forward slash to before the word quote.
Regarding Barreaux, the entry on Bob's site for Champ #12 seems to imply that Barreaux wasn't involved earlier. I think he was probably involved from the beginning (or at least issue #3) so the entry seemed misplaced or at the very least misleading to me.
Peace, Jim (|:{>
Henry Andrews (fox_centaur):
--- Quote from: JVJ on April 07, 2010, 11:04:56 PM ---I didn't ask about "feld" or "field" - the site lists "Rosefeld" (no N). It that a typo or does the indicia spell in without the "N"?
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Sorry, missed that and had been reading the feld/field discussion recently so it was on my mind :-)
--- Quote from: JVJ on April 07, 2010, 11:04:56 PM ---Quinlan certainly continues to produce Catman, but what evidence is there for Temerson's continued involvement? I've seen the Ulmer letter, and my take on it is not that Ulmer is saying that Temerson is at Holyoke. Unless you know of another letter, I'm still very leery of placing Temerson the man at Holyoke the publisher.
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Reading over this one (it was posted while I was writing my previous reply) I agree that it doesn't make a case for Temerson involved in the titles at Holyoke. He may have been, or he may have been shut out until he managed to get them back for Et-Es-Go. The only clear thing is that editorially/creatively there is continuity.
thanks,
-henry
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