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General Category => Comic Related Discussion => Topic started by: TheCosmicMoth on December 01, 2015, 06:27:10 AM
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I wanted to make a list of my favorite material from the Golden Age, and I was curious about everyone else's . I have a strong preference for superhero books, and for concepts that are strikingly different (because, let's face it, a lot of Golden Age material was paint by numbers). Anyway, here's my list:
1) William Moulton Marston's run on Wonder Woman- I love it because it's so radically feminist that it's way ahead of its time. The way that Marston plays with bondage themes and turns gender roles on their heads makes his method of writing for feminism unique to this very day. In a lot of ways, Wonder Woman follows the superhero formula of the day, but the ways in which her adventures differ are a breath of fresh air. It's definitely a revolutionary work and shows why Wonder Woman survived while many other Golden Age heroines were lost in time.
2) Anything by Fletcher Hanks- I love it all: Stardust, Fantomah, Tabu, and Space Smith. Hanks must have been a consummate misanthrope with a wild imagination. His concepts and the pace of his stories remind me of a Silver Age Jack Kirby- if Jack Kirby hated everything. Hanks and his heroes were absolutely brutal in a way that will either make you laugh or cringe- depending on your disposition. His art style is also completely unique. I've heard it described as terrible, but I'm into it (though my art is also, admittedly, terrible).
3) The Detective Eye- First off, The Eye is a terrifying concept. It is a giant, disembodied, floating eyeball that seems to know all, see all, and can destroy you in an instant. Basically, it's a paranoid's nightmare. Also, if Wonder Woman was a force for feminism and Golden Age Superman was a force for New Deal economics, The Eye was a force for right-wing isolationism. One adventure had The Eye aiding the Committee Investigating Unamerican Activities. Another had him violently stopping illegal immigrants from entering the country. These aren't my political leanings, by any stretch, but I appreciate it when comics show a political or philosophical slant. Not many do.
4) Superman- He's my all-time favorite superhero, and, though I prefer his Silver Age material, you have to respect the stories that defined the superhero genre. If some of it seems too familiar, it's because he was often imitated. I also enjoy how Golden Age Superman really fought against injustice for the common man. He would fight for safer working conditions, for honesty in business practices, and for peace over profit. I take pride in the fact that the first comic book superhero was a champion of New Deal reformation.
5) Batman- Batman is inevitable. In fact, he's so inevitable that I'm often sick of him. That being said, I can't deny that Batman had, arguably, the best rogues gallery of the Golden Age (and, probably, still has the best): The Joker, Catwoman, The Riddler, Hugo Strange, The Penguin, Two-Face, and more tried to foil The Caped Crusader in the 1940's. His villains were so interesting and charismatic that they often stole the show which you can't say about too many other bad guys in the Golden Age. There are also many, solid, out-of-the way Batman stories like the Adam Lamb/Crime Master story in Batman #2 and "The Ugliest Man in the World" from #3. No matter how you feel, you just can't avoid Batman.
6) The Claw- Yes, the racial stereotypes used to create The Claw make me wretch, but The Claw is still incredibly interesting. He's arguably the first supervillain, and he's a villain who carried his own stories without a set protagonist to constantly be fighting against. This probably makes him the first universal supervillain since he battled all of Lev Gleason's major heroes: Daredevil, Silver Streak, The Ghost, etc. His powers were also dark and bizarre. His power to make people fall asleep and either have good dreams or terrible nightmares reads to me like a metaphor for opium. You just can't kill The Claw.
7) The early Amazing-Man stories- Later Amazing-Man stories would become pretty generic like most of the superhero material of the time, but there was something weird and special going on with the early stories. Take Amazing-Man Comics #6, for example. Amazing-Man has this strange, multiple-personality disorder moment when The Great Question reaches out to his mind and nudges it in the direction of evil. You get to see this Superman archetype suddenly morph into this terrifying monster in an instant. There was so much potential in that moment, but it, eventually, came to nothing. Still, Amazing-Man was, at one point, pretty unique with no superhero costume and his weird ability to turn into green mist.
8 ) Airboy and the Hillman aviator universe- Airboy is a concept that really wouldn't work in the modern world. Something tells me that most people wouldn't feel comfortable watching a 12 year old boy gleefully gunning down enemies in a war zone. That's sort of why I like it, though. There is something really sadistic happening in the pages of Airboy, and I think it's unintentionally really good commentary on the brutality of war and our habit of romanticizing it. I also really like that, even though Hillman was not known for it's superheroes, they created some really great supervillains: The Heap, Rubberman, Misery, and the Valkyrie.
9) The Little Wise Guys- Golden Age Daredevil was alright, but it's easy to see why The Little Wise Guys eventually stole the show. They're a celebration of being young and they seem to exist in a world without any parental supervision. Most of the time, this is all pretty innocent, but every now and then they gave you a glimpse of how ugly things can be. Meatball's death in Daredevil Comics #15 is the perfect example of this and is one of the first deaths of a major character in comic books. There have been many other squads of juvenile delinquents in comics, but, for me, The Little Wise Guys are the best.
10) The Justice Society of America- Having a team of superheroes was such a great story-telling and marketing concept that I wonder why more publishers didn't really pick up on it until the Silver Age. The Justice Society's stories gave you more great superheroes for your buck and solidified a formula that would work until the late 1960's. I'm partial to Johnny Thunder's chapters. It's still funny watching him stumble into victory without a clue. Keep 'em flying!
Honorable mentions: The Green Turtle, The Blue Beetle, Miss Victory, Silver Streak, and The Black Terror.
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Like you, my preference also leans heavily towards the superhero genre from the Golden Age:
1) Captain America and Bucky- whether featured in his own title, All Winners, All Select, USA Comics or elsewhere, I loved the character's adventures from this era, and it's easy to see why he was outselling even Superman for a time. Heck, I even liked the series when Steve and Bucky left the army and ended up at the Lee School, with Rogers as a bespectacled teacher and his sidekick as a student when not called into action. Sadly, I felt like the series went into terminal decline with the creation of Golden Girl as a new sidekick for Cap.
2) Superman- He's also a favorite of mine, and has been since I first started reading his adventures as a kid.
3) Batman and Robin (Batman, Detective, Star Spangled Comics)
4) Star Spangled Kid and Stripesy - Switcheroo!
5) Nightmare and Sleepy - Nightmare had one of the best costumes from the Golden Age, for my money. At least, until they went and changed it.
6) Superboy- More Fun and Adventure Comics.
7) The Shield- There was something about this series from MLJ Comics (later Archie) that I always dug, especially when -- between the mid-twenties and mid-thirties issues of Pep Comics, artist Irv Novick hit his stride. Like a lot of books from this publisher, sometimes the pencils could look sketchy or rushed, especially in the pages of Shield-Wizard. But this was another hero-sidekick team (with Dusty the Boy Detective) that I couldn't wait to read until, sadly, there were no more stories from the era.
8 ) American Crusader (Thrilling Comics)- A caped superhero who reminded me a bit of Superman, except that both the Crusader and the bespectacled professor which served as his alter ego often has no problem killing Nazis and other assorted bad guys ("A broken neck! The world is better off without you Hans!").
9) Blue Beetle (Fox and Holyoke)
10) The Black Terror and Tim
Honorable Mentions: Flagman and Rusty, Wonder Woman, The Eagle and Buddy, the Daredevil Boy (Fox), American Eagle and Buddy, The Atom (Al Pratt), Green Lantern, Mr. Scarlet and Pinky, Little Boy Blue and the Blue Boys, Shock Gibson, Captain Freedom, Yankee Boy (Harry A. Chesler).
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I wanted to make a list of my favorite material from the Golden Age, and I was curious about everyone else's . I have a strong preference for superhero books, and for concepts that are strikingly different (because, let's face it, a lot of Golden Age material was paint by numbers).
I can't say that I've ever been fully in love with the Golden Age stories -- I guess there's a big part of me that prefers more modern treatments of character and motivations. What can I say? I grew up in the Silver Age. But there are a bunch of characters that I'm fond of:
1) The Justice Society was one of my long-time favourite teams, and I've like just about every story they've appeared in. I confess that I'm more familiar with their Silver Age (and later) exploits than I am with the Golden Age stuff, but they're still probably my favourite team ever.
2) Like krankyboy, above, I'm quite fond of The American Crusader. I'm currently writing something where he's my Superman pastiche.
3) I'm also quite fond of The Scarab. He just seems like a nifty character. Like a combination of Golden Age Hawkman ("reincarnated Egyptian") with a smidge of Green Lantern ("My ring!") thrown in. Besides, he's a super hero who periodically gets rescued by his own cat, so that's pretty nifty.
4) Marvelo, the Monarch of Magicians, is usually a fun read, but I'm most impressed by the nice, clean artwork of the Marvelo stories. At the same time, it's hard to overlook the racist depiction of his Chinese aide, Zee.
5) I'm also pretty fond of Black Venus, and her airplane.
Other characters I like: Ace's Raven, The Duke of Darkness, and the time traveller, Ace Buckley.
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i have a strange love for Wonder Man from Fox. i know, he was only in one story and then disappeared due to lawsuits, but i've read that story a dozen or more times and i just love it.
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When comics fandom started out in the early 1960's young fans had to rely on the opinions of the few older fans who remembered the Golden Age to make their choices.
Their opinions appeared in articles in the early ditto-graphed fanzines. Then we looked at the ads in those fanzines. Find something you think you want? Send cash thru the mail, with lots of alternate choices. (Sometimes the alternates turned out to be better than your first choices.) Get on dealers' mailing lists. Order more stuff.
Sometimes you ended up agreeing with the BNF's. (Big Name Fans) Sometimes not. Sometimes you bought from the wrong part of the run of a title or character. At my first con I traded a terrible (IMO) issue of the Blue Beetle for my first ever Green Hornet. I won that deal - big time!
Today we have places like DCM to explore for the price of an Internet connection. A better option, don't you think?
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Great lists, guys! They've given me some new characters to check out.
erwin-k, I'm very grateful to live in an age with things like the Digital Comic Museum. Running into The Detective Eye was a happy accident that probably wouldn't have been possible without the DCM. It's the best way to be exposed to and browse the more obscure corners of the Golden Age. I wish I could have been there at the outset of fandom, though. It sounds like you guys really got to explore while most things are pretty easily found or researched this day and age. I think half the fun of fandom is in exploring.
That's why I like lists and hearing other people's opinions. We might not always be into the same things, but it's interesting to hear about what my fellow fans enjoy and why.
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I agree CM.
And thank-you very much for starting this topic!
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I agree CM.
And thank-you very much for starting this topic!
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Thanks, Yoc :)
And thank you for your work on this site.
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My pleasure CM.
It's my little part of giving back to our hobby. And as a bonus I've gotten to know several members on a personal level and never have a nicer group of people been collected for a mutual love of a hobby.
I can't add much to your lists here. Visually I've always enjoyed the look of The Yellow Jacket from Charlton and the Comet character becoming the Hangman feature in Pep (MLJ) was unique at the time.
Happy Holidays all,
-Yoc
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1) Captain Marvel and Marvel Family titles
Bar none, my favorite Golden Age comics. They had the best matchup of quality writing, good characters, and great art. Also, they are so much fun to read.
2) Captain America
I'm a patriotic American-type guy and Joe and Jack not only got it right in their 10-book term (plus 2 issues of ALL-WINNERS) but set a template that others followed well for 8 more years. Timely's most entertaining book.
3) Sub-Mariner
When Bill Everett was writing / drawing the character, he was way out in front. Probably the first great antihero in comics.
4) The Spirit
If I have to explain this one to you, you're already doomed.
5) Crimebuster
One of Charlie Biro's greatest creations, with the most hideous villain (Iron Jaw) anybody ever thought of in comics.
6) Black Cat
I've always had a soft spot for Harvey's sexy femme fatale.
7) Supersnipe
George Marcoux and his writers always ranked up there with Barks and Kelly for storytelling, and it's a dirty shame most people will not get the chance to read the thrilling adventures of Koppy McFad, fanboy hero.
8) Blackhawk
In his first incarnation, he was the 1940's Punisher. Too bad he had to be softened up for popular consumption later.
9) Batman
Don't need to say anything more.
10) Doll Man
My first and favorite Quality hero.
11) Plastic Man
Nobody can ever do what Jack Cole did, though some much-later DC's came close.
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I have never been good with favorites. I have likes and dislikes, not a lot of ranking. I do think anything by Boody Rogers, from Babe to Sparky Watts, is worth trying out. Being short, I also have an appreciation for the Black Dwarf. Seeing as he was one of the first collection on this site, others must agree. I also agree Fletcher Hanks is worth checking out. So much good stuff how do you decide?
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Like erwin-k, I have fond memories of the early days of comics fandom in the early to mid Sixties. My fan pals and I thought nothing of popping a golden age comic in a manila envelope and mailing it third class across the country so that we could share the good reading. When I think of that now, it makes me cringe. But mail service was such that the comics seemed to arrive in good shape. Go figure!
I was never all that much of a super-hero fan. I read plenty of late '50s DC Weisinger-era superheroes because that was all I could find during my childhood. And I got a big charge out of the Marvel super-heroes as they started to come out: Fantastic Four, Amazing Spider-man, and even the lesser heroes (Thor, Iron Man, Antman, etc.) But by the time I hit college age, I was fairly burnt out on super-heroes.
Based on all the GA comics I've read on DCM (and CB+), my favorites have mostly been other genres: crime, horror, and Cold War espionage. Foregoing listing titles, I would mostly point to my favorite publishers: Lev Gleason, Harvey, St. John, Prize, ME, Columbia, Comic Media, Fiction House, Hillman, Quality, Orbit, Toby Press, and that oddly old-fashioned Novelty Press line. I have an especial soft spot for Atlas comics, but sadly they are not public domain, so they are not to be found here at DCM. (If anyone can point me to archives of Atlas scans, I'd appreciate it. A good number of them used to be posted to Usenet news groups years ago, but no longer.)
Alright, two of my very favorite comic titles: Gene Autry's Champion (Dell) with terrific Mo Gollub art, and the Peter Wheat series by Walt Kelly (and Hubbell). Sheer entertainment. The Spirit sections by Eisner (and ghosts) are super. Anything by Klaus Nordling (The Barker published by Quality is great as are his Lady Luck strips, not to mention his Pen Miller crime-fighting cartoonist stories! ).
It goes without saying that all EC titles were superlative. But, again, they are not to be found here on DCM. But one could spend the next several years just combing through what *is* on DCM.
I look forward to a happy 2016 with the DCM crew.
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I'm pretty fond of Black Angel, the darling of Air-Fighters Comics, and her skin-tight costume.
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Plastic Man: Nobody can ever do what Jack Cole did, though some much-later DC's came close.
I'm curious, darkmark, which later DC's do you consider as evoking Jack Cole's Plastic Man?
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Probably the ones in the 90's or '00's with that wacko cartoonist whose name i don't remember.
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Kyle Baker??? I haven't bought any new comics since the mid-1980s, so I'm unfamiliar with these.
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I never bought any of the Kyle Baker Plastic Man, but I've always thought DC has made one cardinal mistake that has kept Plas from working like he did in the 1940s and 50s. They try to integrate him into the DCU and make him a comedy character in a normal world. He's really a straight-man in a comedy world. I think that if they would just put him in his own little world, not integrated with the rest of their continuity, and follow the original Jack Cole formula with similarly talented creators who get his vision, then Plastic Man could be good again.
-Eric
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Well, here's my list of favorite comics from the Golden Age:
1. The stories Lou Fine, Reed Crandall, and Paul Gustavson did for Quality during the 1940's. In an era where practically everyone was trying to copy such comic strip artists as Alex Raymond, Milton Caniff, and Hal Foster; what was coming from Messrs. Fine, Crandall, and Gustavson was astounding to say the least. They were showing that it was very possible to mix action with realistic illustration in a lively manner. To show what I mean, just look at what Lou Fine did on such strips as Doll-Man, The Ray, The Black Condor, and Uncle Sam among others. For Reed Crandall, just look at his work on such strips as Samar, Hercules, and Doll-Man among others. Or better yet, look at Crandall's classic work on Blackhawk to see how he took them a step further. For Paul Gustavson, you could look no further than his work on The Jester and his early Human Bomb stories. They set the bar for such later Quality school artists as John Cassone, Al Bryant, and George Tuska to name a few and paved the way for such artists as John Buscema, Neal Adams, and Murphy Anderson to draw comics in a way that mixed fast paced action with realistic illustration.
2. The Hangman; Although the Hangman himself chose not to kill in his crime-busting crusade, it didn't stop his strip from becoming MLJ's most brutal feature (particularly after Harry P. Lucey and later Bob Fujitani took over the feature). There were frequent hangings, stabbings, strangulations, shootings, impalings, and even a decapitation or two (A favorite method of murder among Hangman artists was having someone get impaled in the throat). And criminals in these stories had the bad habit of inadvertedly meeting premature -and often gruesome - demises during their encounters with the Hangman. If one wants to get an idea what pre-code superhero stories were like - and how brutal they could get - during the Golden Age, read any of the Hangman's adventures.
3. Dick Sprang's Batman work: If one wants to get an idea of how lively and fun the Batman stories were during the 1940's, I would suggest you should read any of Dick Sprang's Batman stories. His lively art style - which mixed Caniff styled illustration with a lively cartoony look - when combined with top-notch scripts by Bill Finger, Don Cammeron, and Joe Samachson among others made his Batman work fun to read and helped create that sense of enjoyment one gets by reading the DC comics of the 1940's.
4. The Justice Society of America: When DC/All-American decided to bring eight of their superheroes - Flash, Green Lantern, Hawkman, Doctor Fate, the Spectre, the Atom, Hour-Man, and the Sandman - together in one story published in All-Star Comics #3 (Winter, 1940-1941), they created another milestone in comics, the super-hero team. With 17 superheroes appearing as members at one time or another during the strip's decade long run, the feature was impressive enough. But mix that with stories by Gardner Fox, Robert Kaningher, and John Broome plus artwork by such Golden Age greats as Irwin Hasen, Bernard Baily, Carmine Infantino, Joe Kubert, and Jack Kirby among many others; you have a feature that is a must-read among anyone who considers himself/herself a Golden Age comics fan.
5. The Seven Soldiers of Victory: DC's second super-team and one of only two superhero teams (the other being Timely's All-Winners Squad) to appear more than once in comics (if you don't count Fawcett's Marvel Family which basically were ditto copies of the same hero). The scripts of Mort Weisinger, Bill Finger, Jerry Siegel, and Joe Samachson along with the artwork of such notables as Mort Meskin, George Papp, Arturo Cazeneuve, and Ed Dobroka among others ensured that the stories of the team -which consisted of the Vigilante, the Shining Knight, the Green Arrow and Speedy, the Star-Spangled Kid and Stripesy, and the Crimson Avenger - were on the level of those of the Justice Society of America.
6. Irv Novick's MLJ art: I became familiar with Irv Novick through his work on both Batman and The Flash during the 1970's. It was in recent years I've gotten a chance to really look at Novick's early MLJ work and how it eventually allowed him to evolve into one of the major exponents of the Caniff/Sickles school of comic book/comic strip art. Looking at his early work on both Bob Phantom and The Shield showed that he had a loose style that owed a little bit to Noel Sickles but used a backup strip like Shanghai Sheridan in the pages of Top-Notch Comics to experiment with Sickles influenced penciling and inking approaches. Then looking at his1941-early 1942 work on The Shield and Steel Sterling showed how much his fellow MLJ staffer Mort Meskin was influencing his style as it began to get livelier. And looking at much of MLJ work from 1942-1946 showed how much Jack Kirby was influencing him as his work began to look like a cross between Meskin's and Kirby's. And his later period at MLJ/Archie showed his style evolving into a rougher version of the art style that would grace his later DC work.
7. Timely's superhero comics: When Joe Simon referred to his work on Captain America as work on a horror strip, he knew what he was talking about. Timely's superhero features very much reflected their pulp origins and were proud of every gory bit. Heroes such as Captain America, the Human Torch, the Sub-Mariner, the Destroyer, the Vision, and Miss America among others fought against some extremely scary villains with claw-like hands, fangs, gruesome looks, and the like. And these bad guys did such things as commit extremely gruesome murders, try to commit mass destruction, and even threaten America with national crisis (especially if the villains were Nazis or Japs). And in battles with these heroes, these super fiends met with premature - and often grisly - demises which were cheered on by the readers in some ultra lively stories. And Alex Schomberg's covers for such titles as Marvel Mystery Comics,All-Winners Comics, All-Select Comics, and U.S.A. Comics among other books with their everything-happening-at-once look captured the very essence of what comics in World War II were like. You can also add the artwork of such people as Jack Kirby, Joe Simon , Carl Burgos, Bill Everett, Al Avison, and Syd Shores among others.
8. Jack Cole's Plastic Man: A classic strip by a classic artist. 'Nuff said!
9. Lily Renee's work on Senorita Rio: When Lily Renee took over the Senorita Rio feature in Fiction House's Fight Comics #34 (October, 1944), she began starring actress turned counterspy Rita Farrar aka Senorita Rio in a series of well written and well illustrated pieces of comics-noir. Like what Will Eisner was doing on The Spirit, Lily Renee was using the elements of German Expressionist films and its American offshoot Film-Noir in a comic book setting. And the fact that she - like fellow female cartoonists Tarpe Mills and Dale Messick - paid very close attention to the fashions her female characters wore led to her having Rita Farrar go through an average of three costume changes per story.
10. The work of Mort Meskin: I was aware of the work of Mort Meskin through reprints of his work on the Johnny Quick and Vigilante features. But after getting the chance to see more of his work, I began to appreciate his comic book work even more. Not only do I enjoy his work on both The Vigilante and Johnny Quick. I've become very fond of his Black Terror and Fighting Yank stories - not to mention his earlier MLJ work -as well.
Honorable mentions: Klaus Nordling's Lady Luck and The Barker; Al Bryant's Doll-Man, Joe Kubert's Golden Age Hawkman work; Lee Elias' work on The Black Cat and The Flash; Gil Kane's early work on such strips as The Sandman and Wildcat among other great stuff that is too numerous to mention.
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There is an incredible amount of good stuff there just waiting to be found.
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Well said Mr. Izaj!
I agree with all of your choices. New members couldn't go wrong with any of them.
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Thank you, Yoc!
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In no particular order:
Black Terror
Wonder Woman
The Romance Titles that are really crime stories in disguise
Fox's Phantom Lady
Rulah
Planet Comics
Strange Worlds (#s 2, 4 & 5 stand out for me)
Comic Media's Dear Lonely Heart series (#s 1 & 5 stand out to me)
Suzie (especially the earlier issues)
Early Katy Keene
Chamber of Chills (#19 is my grail)
Tomb of Terror
later issues of Atlas' Venus (#19 being my favorite)
Atlas' romance titles
Just about anything by Matt Baker (or that is "Baker-esque" from the Iger shop)
will draw my attention like a shiny new toy (particularly fond of Sky-Girl, Mitzi and Canteen Kate)
Fiction House's Ghost Comics
St John's Amazing Ghost Stories
Just about any of EC's horror & Sci Fi titles
There are some comics that I buy just for scanning to fill holes here and at CB+ that I end up being pleasantly
surprised by, the most recent of which is Dixie Dugan
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I too love superheroes, although horror, sci-fi and other genres interest me.
Superman - He is my favorite hero of all time. His creators were living in Cleveland, Ohio at the time (although Joe Shuster was born in Toronto) and although I don't live there, I am from the state of Ohio. The fact Superman was "born" in Ohio is good enough for me!
Sheena, Queen of the Jungle - Much better looking than Tarzan and all those guys living in the jungle wearing nothing but tiger-skin underwear. Not as ruthless as Rulah. Sheena will forever be linked in my mind with Tanya Roberts, who played her in the 1984 film that few like.
The Clock - I am now aware that he is the first masked hero to appear in an American comic magazine. He is careless, but still manages to catch the crook in the end! If only there was a book that reprints all of his stories in chronological order. I'd buy it if it existed. I think a Clock movie would be great, but I don't know if young people would want to see it.
The Blue Beetle - I first became aware of him through DC Comics, in the Ted Kord incarnation. But having read several of the early Dan Garret stories has made me an even bigger fan of this character. He is cocky, but still cool.
Cat-Man and Kitten - A guy raised in the jungle by leopards? And he's in charge of taking care of a young, innocent pre-teen girl? Hmmm.... Charles M. Quinlan's art is pretty good and he even puts himself in one of the stories (#15). Superheroes don't always need to be deadly serious to entertain.
Captain Marvel - The original and only Captain Marvel who matters to me. He is not Shazam! That is the name of the wizard and the magic word Billy Batson says to transform. Another hero with a sense of humor.
The Green Hornet - Busting rackets one day at a time!
Shock Gibson - That shark fin helmet rocks! And I love the goofiness of the stories and art.
The Ghost Rider - Yes, the supernatural Western hero.
The Crimson Avenger - DC's second costumed hero. Very underrated.
Spy Smasher, Mary Marvel, Doctor Nemesis, Phantom Lady, and if he counts, Buck Rogers.