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General Category => Comic Related Discussion => Topic started by: bminor on May 09, 2013, 09:54:52 AM
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I really liked that Flash that was done in the mid 90's. Pretty dog gone good.
Nice production values and o.k. stories
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Wonder Woman and Flash were both awesome. I liked Birds of Prey for a few episodes, but then I kinda just lost interest...
The Incredible Hulk was a childhood favourite...
As for right now, I keep meaning to check out Arrow... my friends give it pretty solid reviews.
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Arrow is great. My son watches each episode twice. He watches it at 8PM but I watch it later and he watches it with me.
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Space Family Robinson/Lost in Space; First season only. The rest bit.
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Space Family Robinson claimed not to have been based on the comic.
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Batman from 1966-67.
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The pickings are pretty meager, in my opinion, but I'll have to go with "The Adventures of Superman." Within the genre of comic book characters adapted to television series the first Superman adaption is historically significant and I still think the series holds up pretty well despite the fact that the special effects aren't very convincing. They weren't very convincing back in the day either but that bother anyone then. If this weren't limited to live action series, I'd probably pick "Couragous Cat and Minute Mouse" as the best adaption of Batman to television because that is clearly the source material for the series; Bob Kane did the storyboards and obviously had a great time creating villains the were very much like Batman's rogue gallery despite being funny animal characters.
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I loved the Justice League / Unlimited animated series. Quite faithful to the source material.
Fans of the goofy 50s Batman might like the Batman- Brave and Bold series.
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I Watched lois and clark,on ABC,years ago.,it was a very good show,dean cain did a good job,playing superman.
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Ditto. So many great moment in the JL/JLU series -- so many. Where else can you see Bwana Beast? (Was he in B&tB?)
I loved the Justice League / Unlimited animated series. Quite faithful to the source material.
Fans of the goofy 50s Batman might like the Batman- Brave and Bold series.
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Never saw the Lois & Clark show though I'd give it a chance if it ever came on tv sometime.
I can't recall if Bwana Beast was on B&B or not. They had a lot of characters over it's run. Like Batmite in the last episode. And singing. Oy! I can't say I enjoyed it nearly as much as JL/JLU. The tone of B&B was just too goofy for me. Sure, it was aimed at a younger audience and it felt like the 50's silly era with modern versions of characters but it wasn't my cup of tea. I still watched them all to support Timm and DC animation. I quite liked Young Justice as well.
I was disappointed they decided against doing a Capt Marvel series. He would have been my choice if they wanted to do another series with the same humour feel as B&B.
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I am pretty sure BB was on BB. He appeared in Showcase 66-67 by Sekowsky. I loved him when he first came out and was sorry he did not get his own book. I have always favored the oddballs.
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I loved the character's look from the start, and the powers were pretty novel. It was kind of hard to take the concept seriously, though, and I was shocked the DC dropped him into Who's Who without any comment.
In context, bwana, as it turns out, is kind of offensive. From a textbook standpoint, it's a formal, respectful address, like "Sir." Less formally, it's more like how the Spanish jefe ("boss") is used in the United States, semi-sarcastic. The reason is that, for many years, the word was to be reserved for white bosses on the job, which is where the offense comes from.
The closest analogy I can think of would be a white superhero in the deep south calling himself Massa' Monster.
Just as a quick chime-in on topic, though, the Flash still holds up (I bought the DVDs because I missed half the episodes when it aired).
Lois and Clark was good, at least for a while. It was a nice touch making Clark the guy everybody likes but Superman stiff and clever making the hero almost an afterthought in the show.
Justice League...I turned it off after the first few episodes when it aired, because it seemed to be cherry-picking everything I disliked about modern comics. I'm rewatching it now, and...I don't feel much better for it, but it wasn't quite the trainwreck I saw. And to be fair, I didn't really enjoy the team's Batman or Superman shows, except for an occasional episode. Too..."toyetic," especially Superman.
What I saw of The Brave and the Bold (up after I'm through with JL and JLU), I liked. I thought it was fun, but not overly campy or childish, even if the design was clearly supposed to evoke the Adam West series (which I cut my teeth on, in reruns, and will still drop whatever I'm doing to watch, when I see it on). The big innovation I saw that caught my eye was packing an entire (short) episode into the teaser.
It's only barely (if that) related to the comics, but the Human Target, a few years ago, that was amazing. Well, the first season was amazing. After that, they bring in a woman as a "silent partner" whose job it is to stand around pouting about stuff and occasionally be a victim. I hope the actress was some executive's girlfriend, because that's the only quasi-acceptable reason to throw in such an unlikeable character as a transparent ("tense") romantic interest. They also canned the guy that rescored (and re-recorded with an orchestra) the theme music every episode and replaced him with some dude and a synthesizer and generic "edgy" tracks...yawn. But no lie, grab the first season DVDs.
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Hi John,
I admit DC wasn't my first love and I'm not nearly as versed in it's history as much as Marvel so perhaps that's why I enjoyed JL/JLU more than you. I thought the mini-episodes of B&B were great. Some better than the full episode that followed. They made me want to read Kamandi for instance.
I never saw any of the Human Target and only recall seeing one or two Flash episodes and not being impressed with the body suit - Flash was never muscle bound in my mind.
One show I wanted to see was Sable based on Mike Grell's 'Jon Sable' comic that I collected back in the day. There was lots to work with there.
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I think the suit was a big turn off with the Flash. I enjoyed the episodes but not the look. It is broken into several segments but the Sable pilot is available on youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITOq7_r2rHU
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I enjoyed The Flash and early episodes of Birds of Prey but my favourite was, and is, The Green Hornet. I tried various animation series and can't stand them but apart from classics such as Tweety and Sylvester; Tom and Jerry etc., I generally don't enjoy cartoons. When i was really wee, before we had a commercial chanel on our telly, a neighbour let me watch Superman and I thought it was amazing. I still enjoy the shows. Having recently re-watched the sampler for The Phantom t.v. show I just wish it had ben picked up.
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Thanks Narf!
Never got to see any Birds of Prey beyond the pilot which was Ok. But I've never read any of the comics so it's hard t judge.
The Fleischer Superman cartoons, all in the public domain, were AMAZING! I got a nicer restored collection on DVD. You'll never top those for adaptions artwise. The later stories were pretty average at best but the earlier ones were pretty good for the time.
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To clarify, Yoc, my problem with the JL show wasn't a continuity issue so much as storytelling and characterization. The episodes seemed (and still seem) to mostly be setup for yet another "epic battle." There's what I consider a pretty weird obsession with Lex Luthor and the Fourth World stuff that don't really work for me as "Justice League" stories.
And then the heroes are all...kinda jerks, especially Superman. They're also terrible at whatever it is the Justice League is supposed to do. I just watched the first half of the "authoritarian League" episode, and had to laugh at the shock that Superman would kill someone, after spending the pilot literally pulping Martians and the time-travel episode crashing Nazi troop carriers that were filled with soldiers, and nobody bats an eyelash. (Also, they get knocked out by everything. I mean, c'mon, how clumsy can these idiots be and still be allowed on the streets...?)
Jim nailed it with the Flash. The costume stinks (and the muscles aren't even supposed to be the character's, making it baffling), and the casting wasn't always a good visual match. But it reimagined the character for a different genre, and it did a really good job of building a fresh background. I would've loved to have seen it grow into the era of TV police procedurals, since it was already flirting with the idea in a lot of episodes (unsurprisingly, given Barry's day job).
For a while, I was trying the Green Lantern series (with the gaudy computer animation) and the new Young Justice series. They were nothing to write home about either way, but the "DC Nation" shorts had some good stuff. A lot like the B&B teaser episodes, they're mostly just a couple of minutes for some obscure character, and quite a few that I saw were very good. The Amethyst spot could easily be expanded to a series that'd get a lot of attention.
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I guess each to their own. I liked the exceptional choices in voice actors used on JL/JLU and the respect to the source material most of the time. Not being a huge DC reader I was also being exposed to some characters I only knew vaguely by reputation or covers. I was hoping to see Ragman or Man-Bat show up. I knew them from the Bat-Man Family issues I had.
Superhero books are always filled with anachronisms like those you mentioned. Wasn't Hawk & Dove built around the problem? The last DC movie I saw was 'Superman vs. The Elite' which also built itself around the inner conflict of what makes Superman a hero, etc. etc. I quite liked the movie despite the odd character design they went with.
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Entirely fair, and I don't generally watch TV or read for the same reason others do, and I'm not trying to start an uprising against Bruce Timm. I just found/find the series to be lacking on the heroism side and sort of homogenous with plotting.
For example, the Despero episode, which I hadn't seen before. The original Despero was a tactician banishing heroes to alternate dimensions to use them as game tokens. That'd be a great match for animation, where you could model chess as an actual battle between armies, and so forth. But nah, let's just make him yet another warlord and get everybody into a big fight inside a collapsing building exactly like what seems like half the episodes. (The other half are Lex Luthor...doing whatever the heck it is he does; I really don't get his motivation or point, half the time.)
It's more of a "missed potential" thing than anything else, I guess. A lot of the time, they even raised interesting issues, only to have the writers forget in the rush to get back to the punching.
(To be fair, a lot of the design was nice.)
Superman vs. The Elite was a pretty good try, yeah. Far better than, what, the fifteen times Superman goes ballistic in the series for pretty much no reason?
I did love the Batman Family series. It was a little before my time, but I was introduced to some of the material in one of those digest books, and later spent a lot of time hunting down issues, and then the Detective issues where it got merged in.