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Title: whamcomics uploads
Post by: captain billy on June 01, 2010, 12:32:28 PM
I'm preparing Whiz 85, 120, 127, 140 & 148 for uploading, almost done.  In my cbr every other page is bright and high contrast. The scans are consistent from pg to pg, so I guess in the rar compression process they got goofy.  Is there a way to prevent this?  They scans are 150dpi jpgs, fwiw.
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Post by: captain billy on June 01, 2010, 01:15:33 PM
127 looks swell, so I'll just try 85 again. 

Edit: re-compressed 85, still alternates good pages with weirdly contrasty/bright ones.  120 is the same.  I'll hold these back 'til I figure it out.
Title: Re: My scans? good. My cbr? not. Help!
Post by: captain billy on June 01, 2010, 06:00:34 PM
But seriously, if anyone has experience w/ this issue and can help, that'd be awesome.
Title: Re: My scans? good. My cbr? not. Help!
Post by: Yoc on June 01, 2010, 08:57:37 PM
Hi Wham,
Have you tried using WinZip instead of rar?
How about you upload Wham 127 and an example of a 'bad' one to the FTP and I'll take a look at them for you?
I've never heard of a compression app buggering every other page like yours.

-Yoc
Title: Re: My scans? good. My cbr? not. Help!
Post by: John C on June 02, 2010, 05:56:12 AM
Two possibilities come to mind, but they're both sort of longshots:

First, take one of your bad files and extract everything from the archive.  Are they the same files you believe you put in?  Like, are they the same size and look the same in a normal viewer?

What software are you using to view the archive?  Different systems have different settings.  CDisplay, for example, changes the background color based on some sort of guessing game regarding the edges of the image, and severe differences could make the image look much different.

Did you process the images for consistency?  Is it possible you're picking up the originals?  I know I've scanned material over the years where the scanner did produce results similar to what you describe.
Title: Re: My scans? good. My cbr? not. Help!
Post by: captain billy on June 02, 2010, 07:48:22 AM
I'm viewing w/ CDisplay, the scans are super consistent when viewed in photoshop or the standard windows viewer.  I can try winzip, also I'll upload the god vs bad files tonight or tomorrow, I'm away from my machine now.

I'll also play w/ file extraction and see if they've been changed or not.  Thanks for the suggestions, more asap.
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Post by: builderboy on June 02, 2010, 08:17:24 AM
Whamcomics,

What software are you using to edit the images? I use Photoshop, and it has a quirky way of retaining the last compression rating that you used as a default.

When I prepare the cover image, I generally target a slightly higher file size than the interior pages, anywhere from 1.5 to 2 Mb. For interior pages, I try to target 500Kb or less, specially for the 52 and 68-page books, just to keep the final package size small.

My point is, however, I will find that, when editing a book, if I haven't done all the interior pages in succession, my compression settings will not be consistent across files, requiring me to go back and re-compress some.

What Yoc suggested is best: post one of the troublesome books and let somebody take a look. It might be something simple.
Title: Re: My scans? good. My cbr? not. Help!
Post by: captain billy on June 02, 2010, 07:13:23 PM
I've just uploaded 127 and it's huge!  Despite scanning at 150 dpi, it's around 125mb.  I'm pretty sure the CMA 150 I added long ago was scanned identically and is a mere 25mb.  I obviously have little idea what I'm doing here. 
Anyway, 85 is uploading now.  Holla w/ tips. 

Thanks!
Sandy
Title: Re: My scans? good. My cbr? not. Help!
Post by: captain billy on June 02, 2010, 07:15:59 PM
I have moved from Photoshop CS1 to CS2 since scanning the CMA 150.  Fwiw.
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Post by: narfstar on June 02, 2010, 07:23:50 PM
I have the same problem. It seems to depend on what scanning program you are using. I have been using my samsung and it makes them big
Title: Re: My scans? good. My cbr? not. Help!
Post by: Yoc on June 03, 2010, 12:12:58 AM
Hi Wham,
I just downloaded your Whiz85.  
I can see what you mean about some pages being more yellow than others but it's not that Terrible.  I've seen a lot worse for sure.  Have you got your scanner set for 'auto-colour' on?  Turning it off might give you more consistency between scans.

As for the final file size it's because each page is Very Large!  2mb or more.  DCM has an upper file limit of 200MB but we really would like a 36pg book below 50mb for sure.  Your page dimensions are fine so I'm guessing you are saving your jpgs on Photoshop at the maximum 'quality' level.  Try saving them at lower levels (5-7 say) until you can get to around 1mb per page.

I'll hold off adding your uploads to the site until I hear what kind of luck you have.

-Yoc
Title: Re: My scans? good. My cbr? not. Help!
Post by: captain billy on June 03, 2010, 01:17:10 PM
I just started at the end and posted 148, decidedly smaller.  I'll try to reduce some more file sizes tonight.

Thanks!
Sandy
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Post by: Yoc on June 03, 2010, 03:42:30 PM
Sounds good WC.
I don't see it on the FTP or waiting on the site though.  I'll check again tomorrow.

GL!
Title: Re: My scans? good. My cbr? not. Help!
Post by: captain billy on June 03, 2010, 07:21:34 PM
127, 140 and 148 up.  Hopefully properly.  I'll work on the other two asap, but It might be next week.
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Post by: Yoc on June 03, 2010, 07:59:25 PM
Looks better WC!
I've renamed the Download Name to match the others on the site - ie Whiz Comics 127.
I cover that in the Upload tutorial here - http://tinyurl.com/yfrkumk

Not trying to nitpick here as I think you are looking for feedback,  but you could have saved each page a bit larger if wanted.  Perhaps one more level higher for Quality level when saving with Photoshop.  Personally I shoot for between 500-800kb per a page.  Each scanner has his own preferences but those are my suggestion.  So your Whiz 148 would have been about 28mb instead of the current 10.  But they are readable and that's the important thing!

Thank-you Very Much for sticking with it and helping to fill so many holes in our Whiz collection!  Thankfully the process becomes second nature once you've done it a few times.  Sadly it never is 'exciting' to scan unless you're seriously into it and have a Much faster scanner than my own super slow HP Scanjet 4370!

Take care,
-Yoc
:)
Title: Re: My scans? good. My cbr? not. Help!
Post by: captain billy on June 03, 2010, 08:16:49 PM
I saved 'em at 7 quality this time per your suggestion- I was surprised at how small they ended up.  I'll do #s 85 and 120 at 9 or 10 and see how that goes.  Again, probably next week, funnybook con to attend over the weekend.

My scanner's A3/11x17, so the scanning's not as arduous as the saturation/rotate/crop/save part. 

I'll keep doing this as I can.  My Whiz buying priorities: the ones I can't download here!

S
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Post by: captain billy on June 21, 2010, 07:12:37 PM
Hey- Sorry about the delay on fixing those other files!  I'm still planning to get to it soon, so 85 and 120 will be uploaded when I can and I have a 106 and 137 now, as well as the missing half-page from 103, so I need to scan those.

I also have a centerfold-less Marvel Family 60 scanned...

 
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Post by: Yoc on June 21, 2010, 09:10:47 PM
Ooh my, the Fawcett Collectors must be drooling reading your list S!
Looking forward to them myself.

Take care,
-Yoc
Title: Re: My scans? good. My cbr? not. Help!
Post by: captain billy on June 22, 2010, 07:04:22 PM
Uploading 85 and 120 now.  Hopefully properly named.  Still unhappy w/ the quality of 85: my scans look swell, and this time I zipped rather than using rar.  Alas.  They're readable, at least...
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Post by: Yoc on June 23, 2010, 03:15:01 PM
Now up!
Thanks for these long needed fills WC.
:)
Title: Re: My scans? good. My cbr? not. Help!
Post by: captain billy on June 23, 2010, 06:47:21 PM
Happy to do it!  I'll get to the others as I can.
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Post by: captain billy on July 22, 2010, 08:40:55 PM
I just scanned 106, 137 and the missing part of 103.  I'll crop and tweak and upload soon.  Sorry I'm so slow!
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Post by: Geo (RIP) on July 22, 2010, 10:34:20 PM
I just scanned 106, 137 and the missing part of 103.  I'll crop and tweak and upload soon.  Sorry I'm so slow!

Don't worry about it WC, it takes time to do scans and then edit them, I know, been there, done that many times and still doing it. Don't let it get you down.

Geo
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Post by: Yoc on July 23, 2010, 03:31:18 PM
Now worries at all WC!
Better late than never right?
:)
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Post by: captain billy on August 16, 2010, 05:54:08 PM
Whiz 137 uploading now.  At last!
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Post by: captain billy on August 17, 2010, 07:26:09 PM
And here comes 106.  I'm also uploadin 103- I used the existing cbr, replaced the half pg 10 with a full one, but left the missing back cover alone, b/c mine's a blank back cover Canadian one.
Title: Re: My scans? good. My cbr? not. Help!
Post by: Yoc on August 20, 2010, 06:07:44 PM
Thanks very much WC, keep up the great work!
:)
Title: Re: My scans? good. My cbr? not. Help!
Post by: captain billy on September 20, 2010, 07:12:39 AM
I'll have a copy of Whiz 136 over the next few days!  I'll scan and post as time allows.
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Post by: Yoc on September 20, 2010, 04:44:59 PM
Sounds great WC!
:)
Title: Re: My scans? good. My cbr? not. Help!
Post by: captain billy on October 28, 2010, 03:35:36 PM
Whiz 121 and 136 scanned, just need to crop etc...
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Post by: Geo (RIP) on October 28, 2010, 05:29:55 PM
Will be on the lookout for them WC.

Geo
Title: Re: My scans? good. My cbr? not. Help!
Post by: captain billy on November 02, 2010, 08:05:45 AM
I'm trying to upload 136 but the Captcha image is broken.  Can't enter code if I can't read it!
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Post by: Captain DJ on November 02, 2010, 08:17:47 AM
I'm trying to upload 136 but the Captcha image is broken.  Can't enter code if I can't read it!

OK will look into it now for you.
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Post by: Captain DJ on November 02, 2010, 08:20:34 AM
Have disabled Captcha feature until it is fixed so you can now upload fine.
Title: Re: My scans? good. My cbr? not. Help!
Post by: Captain DJ on November 02, 2010, 11:31:18 AM
I'm trying to upload 136 but the Captcha image is broken.  Can't enter code if I can't read it!

OK ignore it. It only meant to be there for guest's but they can't upload so it will be removed. It doesn't show up as your not a guest so you should be able to ignore the box and just submit your scan.

Will remove it completely tonight hopefully.
Title: Re: My scans? good. My cbr? not. Help!
Post by: captain billy on November 02, 2010, 08:27:53 PM
Tried again got this: "Error: No file uploads of this type are allowed. If you believe this to be in error, please quote the above error and report this to the admin"
Title: Re: My scans? good. My cbr? not. Help!
Post by: Captain DJ on November 03, 2010, 08:41:56 AM
What type of file was you trying to upload?
CBR?CBZ? Other?
Title: Re: My scans? good. My cbr? not. Help!
Post by: captain billy on November 03, 2010, 07:22:19 PM
cbr.
Title: Re: My scans? good. My cbr? not. Help!
Post by: captain billy on November 04, 2010, 08:24:32 PM
Still getting the error message.  I've opened the cbr, works fine, so it's not anything to do with a wonky file.
Title: Re: My scans? good. My cbr? not. Help!
Post by: Yoc on November 04, 2010, 10:43:50 PM
Hi Wham,
Yep, we've got a bug now with uploading CBR files via the web site.
If you rename your file to "xxx.RAR" instead that should work for now.
We will announce when the bug is fixed,

Thanks for letting us know about it.
-Yoc
Title: Re: My scans? good. My cbr? not. Help!
Post by: captain billy on November 09, 2010, 12:15:42 PM
I got the error after trying it as a rar file too.  I'll work on cropping/rotating etc 121 soon, then maybe I can upload both at once, post-bug.
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Post by: captain billy on November 09, 2010, 12:24:24 PM
PS: The new Preview viewer is awesome, and has eliminated the problem I started this thread over.  Nice work!!!!!!!
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Post by: Yoc on November 09, 2010, 02:11:56 PM
Hi WC,
Can you try using a different browser or as a Zip file?
Seems this bug is limited to very few of us.  The other admins had no problem uploading a test.cbr file as can I from my parents home but not my own.
I can upload a rar file from both so the mystery thickens.

Note I'm using FireFox with No Script running.  I haven't had a chance to try MS Explorer to upload a cbr file yet.
Please let us know how it goes.

-Yoc
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Post by: captain billy on November 09, 2010, 05:54:57 PM
It should've occurred to me that Chrome was the problem.  136: in the house.  Thanks!
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Post by: Yoc on November 09, 2010, 06:24:24 PM
Now up!
Was it FireFox that wasn't working?

Thanks for sticking with it, scans look great!
:)
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Post by: captain billy on November 09, 2010, 07:14:14 PM
It's firefox that worked, chrome was the problem.  I'm uploading 121 now- it's a little odd because this copy's cut wrong, much narrower at the top than at the bottom.  I did what I could with it!

I'm on the lookout for 81 & 114.  One of these days I'll find 'em...
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Post by: Captain DJ on November 10, 2010, 01:58:07 AM
Another bug we can't explain..... :)
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Post by: Yoc on November 10, 2010, 05:28:20 PM
I just tried the test.cbr upload using MS Explorer from home and it Worked.
So it must be I have some FireFox addon that is causing trouble.

For now, if someone says a file type wont upload suggest using a different browser as the first alternative.

-Yoc
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Post by: captain billy on November 21, 2010, 07:00:17 PM
I'm uploading a coverless copy of Whiz 114 as I type.  I've included a cover image, but it's pretty lame...
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Post by: Geo (RIP) on November 21, 2010, 09:07:05 PM
Bad cover scan or not it's been approved for downloading consumption for everyone. The world is better because of it.

Thanks Wham.

Geo
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Post by: Yoc on November 22, 2010, 08:10:54 AM
Thanks WC!
:)
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Post by: captain billy on December 01, 2010, 09:49:25 PM
I see Whiz 81 has been posted! I was about to bid on one, now I won't. I do have a copy of #59 on the way, I'll scan and upload asap.
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Post by: Yoc on December 01, 2010, 11:47:15 PM
Sounds fine.
GL WC!
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Post by: captain billy on December 04, 2010, 07:17:04 PM
Whiz 59: uploaded!
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Post by: Yoc on December 04, 2010, 10:58:05 PM
Now live!
thanks again WC
;)
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Post by: captain billy on December 05, 2010, 10:45:18 AM
Glad to help!  I'll have a (sadly) sans-centerfold Whiz 152 up tonight.  It's missing some filler and a couple of Lance O'Casey pages.  CM, GA and Ibis are complete.

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Post by: Geo (RIP) on December 06, 2010, 11:46:49 AM
It is free roaming and out to the public now Wham (Whiz 152). Thanks for your latest upload, it's very much appreciated.

Geo
Title: Re: whamcomics uploads
Post by: captain billy on December 14, 2010, 06:34:28 PM
I'll have a Whiz 52 in hand soon!
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Post by: Geo (RIP) on December 14, 2010, 07:07:54 PM
Be on the lookout for it Wham.

Geo
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Post by: captain billy on December 27, 2010, 08:42:16 PM
Whiz 52 uploading now!  Improperly named, can y'all fix that?  I'm sleepy.

Also: Is that the last one?  Is Whiz done except for a missing page here and there?
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Post by: Yoc on December 28, 2010, 12:16:43 AM
Thanks very much WC!
Yes, the run is done but there are Many fiche books that need paper scans and several that are missing pages.
I hope these someday can be fixed and/or replaced and we can truly say ALL of Whiz Comics have been scanned c2c!

A big thank-you to all the scanners involved in making this happen!
:D