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General Category => Comic Related Discussion => Topic started by: bminor on February 11, 2012, 09:06:27 PM
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What I mean is what is the most expensive public domain comic that we do yet have on the site?
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I think it would have been Green Giant but not any more ;D I much prefer concentrating on what we do not have rather than on fiche replacement. I think the most expensive books have fiche here already. Not overly expensive, but too much for me, would be Mad Hatter #1 a very obscure gem.
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It was Phantom Lady 17 but now I'm not sure.
Paper versions of the early Planet, etc FH books would be nice.
The list of the all-time expensive here - http://itsalljustcomics.com/all-time-record-comic-book-sales/
has NONE that are public domain so that doesn't help.
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If a group of us wanted to go together Mad Hatter 1 can be had for a mere $154. I would contribute $20
http://www.ebay.com/itm/200641975592?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649#ht_500wt_898
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What would be the most sought after fiche replacements?
Some of those fiche are really hard to read.
b.
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Personally I'd love to see a complete run of Prize's FRANKENSTEIN title and the Centaur line.
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It's EXCITING GOMICS #39, the first appearance of Kara the Jungle Princess.
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Right, Glamm has been after that one for a loooong time.
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Mad Hatter #1....I'll pledge $20.00 as well.
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5.5 more contributer and we can get it. I could scan it then put it back on ebay and divide the results. Could make our money back, loose a little or eve make money.
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After scanning and putting back on Ebay for resale...Take the proceeds and hold until the next prize shows up and buy it. Further contrubutions from members here might be necessary, but the process is a good idea.
i have often felt that a buying branch to this site or separate but for this sites enhancement, should be formed.
I would certainly become an active member of that type of group and would contribute a regular monthly amount to help.
Getting the difficult comics would be well worth it.,,,Maybe there are others here who agree and would also help with time, talents, and finances.
P.S.-Contributions directly to this site are always nice as well.
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OK gang let us make it real. We have $40 pledged and need $110 more to get Mad Hatter 1. I think everyone here would trust me to get then resale the book for the project. I just spent over $200 in the last couple months just to get books to scan. So it I were in it to try and scam I would be doing a very poor job. So can we get some more to contribute to the cause? This may not be the most wanted book, but it is not the most expensive either.
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I'd pledge $50, and if it happens, then , do as talia374 sugests, and take the proceeds and hold until the next prize shows up and buy it.
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Hold up on the mad hatter #1. I may have a source.
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Thanks Nobby we are getting close and if Henry has a MH I will start looking for something good or take suggestions
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Hopefully we can get Mad Hatter from another source, but my $20 pledge still stands for the next gem, and will contribute all possible for other purchases in the future.
I would love to see this effort expand.
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MH#1 confirmed. Look for it shortly. As for ideas, how about Cannonball #1? My notes say there is Dan Gordon art in it, but it is probably just a one page filler. The cheapest copy I've seen is around $100, which is more than I felt the desire to spend on it.
And just a word of caution: We tried the "group buy" concept several times in the ABPC days. We found it was much easier to say "we'll scan and sell it" than it is to actually do it. Once you have a book in your hands, it's hard to let go.
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I think we can all trust narfstar to do what's right....Full speed ahead!!
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I think we have proven we can send JVJ's books back. And I had what I think are the best ones in my hands including Mad Hatter 2 and his Centaur books.
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Cannonball 1 found for $60 plus shipping. Is it a go with the group to split the cost?
http://www.metropoliscomics.com/bookSearch.php?searchType=advanced&title=cannonball&issue=&search.x=0&search.y=0&search=Search
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In my efforts to map the doings of Mort Meskin around 1948/1950 I would love to have a look at The Westerner #19, which is cited to have a story by him, but falls richt in the middle of that period. So it is either a misattribution, a late leftover or his earliest reappearance after his illness. Sadly, it never shows up on ebay.
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Metropolis has one in fine shape for $17.50 not a bad price for condition.
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Ger JVJ has Westerner 19 so it will be coming. I am sure you can ask him and he will check for Meskin and can recognize him.
BTW I am ordering Cannonball. If anyone wants to contribute to this book, since MadHatter 1 is coming :) then you can Paypal
jimludwig@bellsouth.net and I will put the book back up for sale after scanning. It will likely be at a loss as is the nature of the game but it is being able to scan the we are contributing. I am reluctant to spend $60 on a book just to scan but if we share the cost it does not hurt as badly. And I did just spend over $200 on a big stack of books just to scan. I guess it is a matter of bang for the buck one issue verses many but then what issues are we talking about.
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A series that I would like to see complete is Bang-UP we have my copy of #1 but need 2 and 3 we can get 2 for $90
http://www.goldenagecomics.com/searchresults.asp?strtofind=bang&cmdSearch=Search
Also need Superworld 1
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BTW I am ordering Cannonball. If anyone wants to contribute to this book, since MadHatter 1 is coming :) then you can Paypal
jimludwig@bellsouth.net and I will put the book back up for sale after scanning. It will likely be at a loss as is the nature of the game but it is being able to scan the we are contributing. I am reluctant to spend $60 on a book just to scan but if we share the cost it does not hurt as badly.
There is no good reason you should sell Cannonball # 1 for less than $60. The book is rare enough (none currently on eBay) that you could actually ask for & get more on eBay (Fixed Price for around $70).
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narfstar-I just sent $20.00 to your Paypal account to support your efforts for bringing great comics to DCM that might otherwise never be seen.
I hope that others will join in this effort, even if just for a couple of dollars.
BEST,
talia374
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Thanks Nobby and Talia !!!
I am ordering Cannonball and in the process of seeing what else Metropolis has to offer
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I've gotten some very good books off Metropolis; including several Targets, a few Phantom Lady appearances, and two of the three complete issues of Peter Wheat News I have. I would warn to be careful if grabbing something low grade from them, though- they sometimes but not always mention damage that brings down the grade.
That's just a heads up, though: like I said, I've bought a lot of books from them, including quite a few three-figure ones, and have been quite happy. Just be ready on some of them if the price is low.
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Ger JVJ has Westerner 19 so it will be coming. I am sure you can ask him and he will check for Meskin and can recognize him.
Yeah, he told me it is even signed. I am curious if I can determine when it was drawn...
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Oh, and to answer the question the thread asks: My #1 most wanted these days would be Target Comic V1 N7.
The Spacehawk cover puts it in the rare & expensive category...
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Great call Eric!
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I apologize for this being slightly off-topic, but I wished to ask if you know someone selling Great Comics #3 (a low grade copy, of course).
Rangerhouse scan, already on DCM, is great, but I have an idea of translating and maybe printing the story, so I wished to have a copy with the Futuro story complete. I tried to bid on eBay on an incomplete copy (missing centerfold) but it was sold for an excessive price.
Also, it seems to me Choice Comics #3 (with the conclusion of the "Lost World" movie adaptation) is also missing from the DCM.
Another book difficult to find at a reasonable price.
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Futuro was reprinted in B&W.
http://www.comics.org/series/15317/covers/
I honestly never realized there was a Choice Comics #3. It has jumped up near the top of my want list for sure.
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Hi narf.
thank you. I was aware of the "Anti-Hitler comics" b/w reprints, and the scans here at DCM are excellent, but I had a broader view about that story, it has something, unlike the dozens of Hitler and/or axis centered stories of the golden age.
It would be my desire to locate a copy, to have it scanner at my desired resolution. I am going to experiment with restoration of art, trying for example to reconstruct the black plate, while the colors could be kept on another layer, with a lot less resolution (in most cases).
As of now, it’s just experiments I wish to do, also with some italian comics of the same period, which I have a dream to reprint.
Great Comics #3 is terribly sought after, so it goes for a few hundred dollars even in fair condition. The copy I tried to acquire was poor (centerfold missing), but it would be enough for me to have the Hitler story complete.
Choice Comics #3, from what I get, is tough. Not tough as much as Great Comics #3, but since it’s actually where the "Lost World" story has its conclusion it becomes a sort of "appendix" to it. :)
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Books like this are why I wish we could get a good fund going. With several hundred dollars and consensus we could get some great books to scan and resale. We would be likely to take a loss but we may even profit on occasion. Please keep an eye and and posting for Choice 3
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Books like this are why I wish we could get a good fund going. With several hundred dollars and consensus we could get some great books to scan and resale. We would be likely to take a loss but we may even profit on occasion. Please keep an eye and and posting for Choice 3
The fund you desire should be easily achieveable with a membership as great as this site boasts.
You can put me down for a monthly contribution of a minimum of $10.00.
If only 25 or 30 more of you join in, we will be able to read some great books that would otherwise never be possible.
As far as concensus...Narfstar has my proxy.
Now is the time to get on board with this project folks!
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I wish the group all the best but speaking for the staff, we are more concerned about seeing the DCM server costs covered each month.
Personally speaking it seems to me a donation to the JVJ Postage Fund would bring far more new comic scans to the site for the same amount of money that one big ticket purchase might cost. But that's just me.
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Yoc,
PLEASE, we don't need any more donations to the fund! We've got over $200 and we aren't using it up very fast. There must be a way to contribute to the maintenance of the site. I'll let people know when I need an injection of donations. I really don't want to solicit and hold other people's money. I just want to cover the postage costs WHEN THEY OCCUR.
Okay?
Peace, Jim (|:{>
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Fair enough Jim. Of course you'll let us know when the fund needs some help. All thanks to you for opening your collection up for scanning. I'm very proud to play a small part in such an important endeavour.
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DCM appreciates any donations big or small towards our monthly server bill here - http://digitalcomicmuseum.com/forum/index.php?action=treasury (http://digitalcomicmuseum.com/forum/index.php?action=treasury)
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Books like this are why I wish we could get a good fund going. With several hundred dollars and consensus we could get some great books to scan and resale. We would be likely to take a loss but we may even profit on occasion. Please keep an eye and and posting for Choice 3
I think that, even if it may not be completely easy to manage, it’s a good idea.
Henry Peter's warning, however, is sound advice. On a personal level, my interest in comic books is threefold:
1) I am interested in scanned comics to discover the golden age, and to explore its variety, which has just opened for me, and for reference.
This is a basic level, for which I am not interested in buying the books.
2) since this interest's flame rekindled thanks to an interest I had started to develop for italian inter-war comics of the same period, some WWII-themed material interests me merely as a reference as above, while for particular material I’d love to have high resolution scans of single stories (this would have been the case of narfstar's Man of War story) but not primarily in collecting the comic itself.
3) if something actually come to interest me both on a research and collecting level, I wish to buy a copy of my own, also for having it at hand to perform some high-resolution scans, if I should come to need it. In fact, DCM has been precious for me to discover comics I went on to buy.
A few possibilities come to my mind:
A) who agrees may contribute with a small fixed amount. This would be lighter on everyone's wallet, but since small amount by small amount we could afford more costly comics, in the end the comic book could be placed on sale (eBay or elsewhere) and funds used for additional costly comics.
B) same as A, but with a poll of previous suggestions taking into account whose comics may be of collecting interest to someone. This way, who wishes to buy a comic could advance a good percentage of its cost, while the rest could be paid by the funds' participants lighter contributions. After the book is scanned (and of course, this would work mostly for a PR/FR-to-VG copies, we know a FN comic suffers from scanning) the collector could have it to keep with a slight delay (a sort of "time payment", huh?)
C) same as B, with the difference of the final buyer being also the scanner. This way, shipping costs would be optimized, and he would handle the scanning.
What do you think?
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Additional note: I also think it would be good to have a fixed resolution as a guide for the scans.
If the books are meant for onscreen reading/consultation, I think the average resolution (which appears to be 180/240ppi) would be fine.
Possible high-resolution versions (300ppi and more) could be asked to the original scanner, in case of particular reproduction needs.
It‘s not to complicate things, but while it‘s good to have better resolution, it’s really not so needed if we are speaking of onscreen reading, and I think it’s fair, if someone really needs better quality for personal purposes, to contact the scanner and maybe give him some small aid for his work.
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I would like to personally thank JVJ for opening his collection to the entire world to enjoy.
Every time I see his initials linked to a download I think of the legacy he is leaving to the entire world for generations to come.
These comics are a snapshot of the American culture as it was at a particular moment in time.
Thanks again to Mr. JVJ.
O.K. now everybody, three cheers.
Hip Hip Hurrah!
Hip Hip Hurrah!
Hip Hip Hurrah!
Thank you.
B.
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The problem with 300 ppi is time. It takes much longer to scan at 300 than 150. I have a stack of books sitting to scan.
If it was only a few books it would not be a problem.
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I would like to personally thank JVJ for opening his collection to the entire world to enjoy.
Every time I see his initials linked to a download I think of the legacy he is leaving to the entire world for generations to come.
These comics are a snapshot of the American culture as it was at a particular moment in time.
Thanks again to Mr. JVJ.
O.K. now everybody, three cheers.
Hip Hip Hurrah!
Hip Hip Hurrah!
Hip Hip Hurrah!
Thank you.
B.
Let's all calm down, b,
They're just comics.
And, narf, if it's worth doing it's worth doing right, not necessarily fast. YMMV, but part of my criteria for supplying these books is that the scans be at least 300 ppi. We only might have one chance and the cbr files might be lower rez, but we'll at least have the raw scans at a printable depth.
Peace, Jim (|:{>
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The problem with 300 ppi is time. It takes much longer to scan at 300 than 150. I have a stack of books sitting to scan.
If it was only a few books it would not be a problem.
Yes, I understand that. And this is fine for onscreen files, I was mostly speaking of specific issues, or specific needs, as I have explained here and there. In my case, certain war-themed super-hero stories.
And, narf, if it's worth doing it's worth doing right, not necessarily fast. YMMV, but part of my criteria for supplying these books is that the scans be at least 300 ppi. We only might have one chance and the cbr files might be lower rez, but we'll at least have the raw scans at a printable depth.
That’s my point. I understand narf's desire to build the library, but I am a little obsessed with quality, and I think – and this goes especially for comics which are either rare or fragile, since the book suffers always at least a little damage – it’s worth to take the time.
Of course, I understand there must be dozens of low-quality comic books or even titles, but for more relevant things, no matter if I have a printing idea in mind, I intend to scan high-res. :)
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I will scan some books of mine at 300 but I have a stack of SA public domain Charltons that I need to get through. These are not the gems of the GA. I also do not see putting in the time for some of the GA books that I get for a dollar. I just got Confessions of Love 11 from STAR.
I got it for a buck but I can tear it apart and put it through my document feeder at 300 ppi no problem. Let it run. It has art by Manny Stalman, N. Nodell and AC Hollingsworth plus an unsigned. The first story actually has a writing credit for Fitch. I will look for similarities because I suspect the others may also have been written by him. Sorta like the Dell practice of having the first story signed and the rest not signed but by the same artist.
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That’s fine.
I think basically what both I and JVJ were saying is that especially if an issue or a story deserves that, it would be better to have a decent resolution to archive.
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AIRBOY vol # 3 issue # 3... and that would make my set complete and then... I will finally read the series!
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An excellent suggestion there tb
:)
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My personal #1 is any issue of Jamboree...just to prove or disprove a theory of mine about their contents.
http://www.comics.org/series/20898/
Jim
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I almost got that book one time but missed out either by outbid or overprice