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vaillant:

--- Quote from: narfstar on March 29, 2012, 07:19:49 AM ---It is funny that I did not like Kirby's big women but in real life I prefer some meat on the bone  ;) But to me Kirby's women looked like weigh lifters and I do not like that look on women. But I do not like the size 2 women as much as the size 10-14 which are more huggable and soft like women should be.

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Oh, but I think I understand what you mean by disliking those 4th world female characters. Jack in the 1970s tended to portrait a number of female characters as "warrior women", and with an inker like Mike Royer, excellent but without the gentleness of Sinnott, they looked a little like "barbarians". :)
However, if you look closely, I think skinner female characters, or more gracious ones (like the Beautiful Dreamer) show the same variety that Kirby’s drawing style used to have in the 1940s and 1950s. I think in the 1970s it depended a lot on the inker.
Demon, however, is beautifully drawn. ;)

paw broon:
Nostalgia, HUH? This is always an interesting topic and one that occasionally comes up at comic marts here.  Despite getting on a bit, I had virtually no exposure to G.A. comics, or American comics, growing up, yet I'm a fan.  Nor did I know anything about the wealth of European material that I have been discovering over the last 25 - 30 years, so I'm not hankering after something I knew as a child.  I am nostalgic for steam trains, etc.   And as for the art in old comics, from various countries, a lot of it is of a very high standard.  High quality art and illustration didn't just start with EC.  Like vaillant, I never got into EC, it was too early for me anyway and the reprints did little for me, despite the quality of the art.
Without going into my taste in women, there are artists other than Kirby who render more physically attractive and/or striking, female characters.  Alex Raymond; D.J.van Exter with Rikki Visser; Lou Fine; Eisner; Frank Robbins; Jack Cole; Don Lawrence; Jim Holdaway with Modesty Blaise; (and this could just be me but) Frank Hampson's Professor Peabody from Dan Dare. These are just the first ones that come to mind and there are many more examples.  Plus all the more modern guys.
I've always loved the look of Kathy Kane in the Batwoman costume - and that is nostalgia.

narfstar:
My true nostalgia is SA and many particular comics from many publishers produce an affect on me. What excitement I have for the GA comes from annual JLA/JSA then Fantasy Masterpieces at Marvel.

tilliban:
Nicely put and well observed, vaillant.
I am a comical person and love any kind of comedy.
And EC offers a lot of comedy – even in its horror titles.
As a kid, I got started on MAD (German version) and as an adolescent I could indeed get my hands on first reprints of US-American ECs like those from East Coast Comix and that fabulous Nostalgia Press compendium “The EC Horror Library”.
So the franco-belgian albums and EC are my two comics “legs” I stand on.

@paw broon: MODESTY BLAISE is a very cool and surely underrated comic strip! Thanks for reminding us..

vaillant:
To add to the "nostalgia" question: as a child I use to daydream on how it could have been the childhood of my own parents. This led, later on, to my collecting of late 1930s Disney publications (which my parents never read since they were too expensive when they were kids).


--- Quote ---I am a comical person and love any kind of comedy.
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You’d love Jacovitti. Seriously. It may be that something has been published in Germany, but I assure you that Jacovitti’s scope of work as a whole is something amazing. And I am not particularly a fan of him, rather of Sebastiano Craveri (who was among the responsibles in introducing 16 years old Jacovitti to the publisher), one of the three "big authors" on which Il Vittorioso has been built. They were called "the three Cs": Caesar (author of Romano il legionario, as I said elsewhere, the fascist equivalent of US-airborne 1940s heroes), Caprioli (although neglected by criticism he influenced a great deal of artists, including Milo Manara) and Craveri (his Zoo family was a genuinely italian alternative to the Disney antropomorphic animals).
It would be great to arrive, at some point, to present something of Jacovitti in English language. I’d love to work on that. There are others, of course, but Jacovitti was already amazing slight afterwards the War.


--- Quote ---Without going into my taste in women, there are artists other than Kirby who render more physically attractive and/or striking, female characters. Alex Raymond; D.J.van Exter with Rikki Visser; Lou Fine; Eisner; Frank Robbins; Jack Cole; Don Lawrence; Jim Holdaway with Modesty Blaise;
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Of course, but Jack shouldn’t be dismissed, not before reading *all* of his output… ;)
Raymond has been a huge influence on Caesar. In fact, in Romano il legionario he’s extremely "Raymondesque", although it retains his uniqueness.


--- Quote ---(and this could just be me but) Frank Hampson's Professor Peabody from Dan Dare.
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Oh no, it’s not just you. :)
Besides, the way the virgin Mary is portrayed in "The Road of Courage" is breathtaking. Also Judas, Hampson goes deep with him: you can almost grasp his inner tragedy, the overwhelming darkness of temptation as he gets out in the open, after the last supper. The only "weak" characterization – unthinkable but true – seems to be precisely the Lord himself. Hampson’s Jesus seems a pale, generic, good looking character. This is the strangest element of the whole story as well, but I guess it has a lot to do with the personal involvement of the authors, and their own experience of christianity. I have a few Eagle issues, I’d like to collect the whole run but they are not easy to find, and right now I have priorities with the italian and comic book stuff.

Ah, and Lou Fine is nothing short of AMAZING. And I mean it. :)

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