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Offline akersjk

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1950s Comics (Westerns, or anything else)
« on: March 21, 2012, 01:02:43 PM »
Hello everyone!

I am new to the website. I am working toward the completion of my M.A. in History at James Madison University, and I am studying certain aspects of the 1950s and the Vietnam War.

In particular, I am trying to discover how 1950s culture (i.e. film, comics, literature, advertisements) illustrated manhood, or what it meant to be masculine.

I am hardly the comic book guru, and have only dabbled in the genre throughout my life. I am trying to find out about any comic series that were widely popular during the 1950s/1960s and reflected strong archetypal male heroes.

Can anyone help me out?

Thanks so much in advance,

Josh

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1950s Comics (Westerns, or anything else)
« on: March 21, 2012, 01:02:43 PM »

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Re: 1950s Comics (Westerns, or anything else)
« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2012, 03:55:07 AM »
This might be a helpful read:

http://www.amazon.com/Commies-Cowboys-Jungle-Queens-1945-1954/dp/0819563382/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1332409972&sr=8-1

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Re: 1950s Comics (Westerns, or anything else)
« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2012, 06:29:42 AM »
Another one that may be of help in getting background on comics during the period you are interested in-

http://www.amazon.com/Comic-Book-Nation-Transformation-Culture/dp/080186514X/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1332415879&sr=1-1



Since it seems to me that you are tying in the perception of how men should behave in war I would suggest that you examine as many of the war comics from the 1950s and 60s as you can.

You will find on the site here many PD war comics from the 1950s. All of these companies published war comics in the 1950s- Ace, Ajax-Farrell, American Comics Group, Avon, Better/Standard, Charlton, Comic Media, Fawcett, Fiction House, Harvey, Hillman, Key, Magazine Enterprises, Quality, St. John, Toby, Youthful and Ziff-Davis (and possibly one or two I'm forgetting).  Also check out the Government Pamphlets including PS Magazine.

You won't find E C Comics here  (because their comics are still copyrighted) but their two war comics (Two-Fisted Tales and Frontline Combat) have been reprinted in various formats over the past three decades and you be able to track them down in one form or another.  These are generally considered the high-point of the genre too so I really do recommend that you check them out.

Unfortunately two other 1950s companies who you won't find here (because their comics are also still copyrighted) are DC and Atlas (Marvel) who were also the two most prolific publishers of war comics during that decade.  DC does have one Showcase Presents Our Army At War volume (reprinting 20 issues) and Marvel has one Marvel Masterworks Battlefield (reprinting 11 issues).  Considering that in the 1950s DC published around 450 war comics and Atlas around 500 this will only give you a small sampling of those company's war comics but at least it is something.  Actually tracking down the original comics would be costly and could take years.

For comics of the 1960s GAC has a few digital war comics  in their Silver age section (mostly Charlton IIRC).  Beyond that there is a Fantagraphics reprinting of Warren's Blazing Combat (which was one of the few comics to actually do stories on the Vietnam war while it was ongoing).  Marvel has published some reprint volumes of Sgt. Fury (one of their few war comics of the 1960s) and DC has some Showcase Presents volumes of Sgt. Rock, Enemy Ace, and Haunted Tank available.

If you actually want to try tracking down any original comics from the 1960s might I suggest Dell's Jungle War Stories (11 issues) which also actually featured stories on the Vietnam war concurrently with the war.  The issues aren't prohibitively expensive and there aren't so many that it would take forever either.

Best

Joe

P. S.  If you want to look for suggestions on your thesis as regards movies might I suggest Nitrateville as there are some pretty knowledgeable folks there.

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Re: 1950s Comics (Westerns, or anything else)
« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2012, 01:03:05 PM »
Hi Josh,

The titles listed below are available in the archives for your perusal:

WESTERN: Jesse James, Tim Holt

WAR: G.I. Joe [the collection is nearly complete!]

Btw, are you familiar with the Charles Atlas ("dynamic tensions") ads??

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Warren,

Hello everyone!

I am new to the website. I am working toward the completion of my M.A. in History at James Madison University, and I am studying certain aspects of the 1950s and the Vietnam War.

In particular, I am trying to discover how 1950s culture (i.e. film, comics, literature, advertisements) illustrated manhood, or what it meant to be masculine.

I am hardly the comic book guru, and have only dabbled in the genre throughout my life. I am trying to find out about any comic series that were widely popular during the 1950s/1960s and reflected strong archetypal male heroes.

Can anyone help me out?

Thanks so much in advance,

Josh

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Re: 1950s Comics (Westerns, or anything else)
« Reply #4 on: March 27, 2012, 12:32:02 PM »
Josh, I hope I'm not getting too far away from what you might consider relevant so, with some trepidation, I'd like to suggest some non-American war titles. You wont find these on here but perhaps your local library will find them for you.
 Charley's War by Pat Mills and Joe Colquhoun  - not the best site but you will find cover illos here:-http://www.charleyswar.net/
Commando comics published by D.C. Thomson - info here:- http://www.commandocomics.com/
War Picture Library - early covers here:- http://www.comicvine.com/war-picture-library/49-32491/?page=40
There  were many more pocket libraries.
Also, have a look at The Victor, a weekly anthology title:- http://www.victorhornetcomics.co.uk/victor50th.html
I was a child in the '50's and British comics were full of war stories, usually very simplistic and often featuring racial stereotypes, which, nowadays, would be considered objectionable.
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Re: 1950s Comics (Westerns, or anything else)
« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2012, 10:03:35 AM »
Josh, have a look at this article.  It might be of interest:-
www.sussex.ac.uk/history/documents/ems
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Re: 1950s Comics (Westerns, or anything else)
« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2012, 10:20:19 AM »
Joe - Where could I potentially get my hands on some of these underground comics? Would they be prohibitively expensive?

paw broon - Thanks for the article, this is extremely interesting.

Warren - I apologize for not having answered your question earlier - but, no, I am not familiar with those ads. What are they?

Thanks,

Josh
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Re: 1950s Comics (Westerns, or anything else)
« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2012, 03:10:26 PM »
Josh,

For some context, visit this link:   http://www.sandowplus.co.uk/Competition/Atlas/Adverts/adverts.htm



Warren



Joe - Where could I potentially get my hands on some of these underground comics? Would they be prohibitively expensive?

paw broon - Thanks for the article, this is extremely interesting.

Warren - I apologize for not having answered your question earlier - but, no, I am not familiar with those ads. What are they?

Thanks,

Josh

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Re: 1950s Comics (Westerns, or anything else)
« Reply #8 on: March 28, 2012, 09:03:02 PM »
Josh,

For some context, visit this link:   http://www.sandowplus.co.uk/Competition/Atlas/Adverts/adverts.htm



Warren



Joe - Where could I potentially get my hands on some of these underground comics? Would they be prohibitively expensive?

paw broon - Thanks for the article, this is extremely interesting.

Warren - I apologize for not having answered your question earlier - but, no, I am not familiar with those ads. What are they?

Thanks,

Josh

Warren,

Thank you for this link. This is very interesting!! I have seen advertisements similar to these in Joe Yank, but I don't think they were Atlas.

-Josh

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Re: 1950s Comics (Westerns, or anything else)
« Reply #9 on: March 29, 2012, 04:28:35 AM »
Joe - Where could I potentially get my hands on some of these underground comics? Would they be prohibitively expensive?


I'm no expert on prices but I see them popup on eBay all the time.  Since many undergrounds went through more than one printing you can often pick up copies of later editions at much cheaper prices which should suit your research purposes just fine.

Here's the Wikipedia article on underground comix- it's pretty well done.  I would recommend your reading over the three books that they list in their bibliography.  They also list some Universities which have collections of undergrounds that you may be able to access for your research.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underground_comix

This site shows covers and lists contents of many undergrounds.

http://sirrealcomix.mrainey.com/index.htm

Best

Joe




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Re: 1950s Comics (Westerns, or anything else)
« Reply #10 on: March 29, 2012, 04:56:21 AM »
From the British Cartoon Archive:-
http://www.cartoons.ac.uk/search/cartoon_item/vietnam
Umpteen pages of newspaper cartoons.  A lot to take in.
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Jon's thoughts on his time in Viet Nam
« Reply #11 on: August 01, 2012, 09:43:53 PM »
Thanks very much for sharing Jon.  I'm thinking about splitting this into it's own topic.
Fascinating stuff.