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Art Spotting in general
srca1941:
Once I become familiar with an artist's work I can usually see the way he draws as you describe. Ones like Pierce Rice, Ken Battefield, Ed Moritz, Maurice Gutwirth, etc. that I've been seeing since I started getting into GA comics, those I can spot looking at the whole body of the page. For ones I am not as familiar with, or have never seen before, that is when I have to study ears and other little "tells." Once I can spot those, then it's like a key opening a lock, and I can start seeing other things.
And I agree, Who's Who is a guide, not a bible. I frequently come across attributions that are off by a year, or are not listed at all. Take Daredevil Battles Hitler for instance. The GCD listings are not even close to accurate, and Who's Who doesn't even list most of the folks I've spotted as having done Daredevil in 1941. My attributions for that story are:
Chapter 1 (DD & Silver Streak): George Mandel
Chapter 2 (DD & The Claw): Unknown*
Chapter 3 (DD & Lance Hale): Harry Sahle
Chapter 4 (DD & Dickie Dean): Frank Borth
Chapter 5 (DD & Cloud Curtis): Emil Gershwin
Chapter 6 (DD & Pirate Prince): Harry Anderson (signed)
*I can’t shake the feeling that chapter 2 looks familiar, but I can’t place it. Maybe it just looks that way because I’ve studied it for so long. The closest I’ve come is possibly Edd Ashe, but I’m not convinced enough yet. I need to look at more of his work.
-Eric
larrytalbot:
Re: Discussion of art styles. I'm curious about the Simon & Kirby partnership. In particular, the development of Kirby's style. I was surprised to learn that the artist for the early Captain Marvel Adventures was Jack Kirby. Surprised (& disappointed) because of the amateurish quality of the artwork (compared with that of CC Beck & other Fawcett artists). I take it that Simon was the senior partner because his artwork from this period seemed fluid & professional. Later Kirby art under the Simon & Kirby label tended to look more & more like Simon art. So, I take it that Kirby was learning his craft from Simon & came to emulate him. It seems to me that it was only much later that Kirby evolved his own dynamic style easily distinguishable from Simon's. This Kirby 'timeline' is just a personal impression & I'm curious to know if there's any truth in it.
srca1941:
Don't judge Kirby on his Captain Marvel. That's a case where he was supposed to follow the house style, which was still in flux by the way. I believe CMA #1 would have come out between Whiz #14 and 15. Beck was starting to solidify his style by then, but wasn't quite there yet. Another factor is Dick Briefer inked that issue. Years ago when I first learned that, and saw the book in Theakston's Complete Jack Kirby, it didn't really register because I wasn't familiar with Briefer. Looking at is right now, Briefer's influence is quite obvious to me, especially in the first story.
-Eric
Yoc:
Larry, there is a Very indepth look at the evolution of Simon and Kirby's artwork together on the Simon and Kirby blog here -
http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/
It's a fascinating read!
-Yoc
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josemas:
--- Quote from: srca1941 on December 06, 2011, 08:39:11 AM ---Don't judge Kirby on his Captain Marvel. That's a case where he was supposed to follow the house style, which was still in flux by the way. I believe CMA #1 would have come out between Whiz #14 and 15. Beck was starting to solidify his style by then, but wasn't quite there yet. Another factor is Dick Briefer inked that issue. Years ago when I first learned that, and saw the book in Theakston's Complete Jack Kirby, it didn't really register because I wasn't familiar with Briefer. Looking at is right now, Briefer's influence is quite obvious to me, especially in the first story.
-Eric
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Another factor is that Kirby's workload at this time was enormous. According to Greg Theakston (in his recent two-part bio of Kirby-Jack Magic :The Life and Art of Jack Kirby) Simon and Kirby already were turning out about fifty pages a month of material for Timely and the work for Fawcett was done on top of this! Kirby is quoted as saying he was turning out as much as nine pages a day!
It's no wonder some of the material looks rushed.
It was!
Best
Joe
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