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Looking for a Victor Fox photo or drawing...
Yoc:
Hi Drusilla,
That old chestnut that Fox was a savvy accountant for DC has been around for ages and repeated in The Dreamer. Thankfully KenQ's wonderful find of the DC vs Fox transcript takes from mouths of the very people involved under oath evidence that Fox never worked for DC. He worked from the same Building but on a different floor.
You can read all about it in the latest AlterEgo #101 or on KenQ's blog here - http://thecomicsdetective.blogspot.com/2010/07/dc-vs-victor-fox-testimony-of-will.html
It's a lot to read but PACKED with wonderful first hand stories from the birth of the GA superhero.
-Yoc
Drusilla lives!:
--- Quote from: Bob Hughes on May 25, 2011, 02:27:59 PM ---Fox never worked for DC. He published an Astrology magazine which was distributed by Independent News. That's how he got his hands on Action Comics sales figures, looking through the rate cards for his own magazine.
I think Feldstein might be your best bet.
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--- Quote from: Yoc on May 25, 2011, 08:29:11 PM ---Hi Drusilla,
That old chestnut that Fox was a savvy accountant for DC has been around for ages and repeated in The Dreamer. Thankfully KenQ's wonderful find of the DC vs Fox transcript takes from mouths of the very people involved under oath evidence that Fox never worked for DC. He worked from the same Building but on a different floor.
You can read all about it in the latest AlterEgo #101 or on KenQ's blog here - http://thecomicsdetective.blogspot.com/2010/07/dc-vs-victor-fox-testimony-of-will.html
It's a lot to read but PACKED with wonderful first hand stories from the birth of the GA superhero.
-Yoc
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Ha ha! You guys got me there on that one. :P :)
Seems that Nicky Wright book is alittle out of date!
Well, I did say that the history of the early comic biz is a dark and muddled place didn't I. And IMO the full weight of that statement is definitely something to think about when you consider that it takes court testimony given under oath by those involved on a somewhat unrelated matter to piece together the truth as to who's who and such. ;)
And thanks for the link Yoc, looks interesting.
Yoc:
Ken's blog is Packed with amazing reading D.
Well worth the time to read.
David Lawrence:
Old thread...don't know if anybody is paying attention, but...
The photo...Victor Fox & Celestine Fuchs...is interesting because Fuchs is a likely candidate for the original Fox surname. Though Victor was born in England his parents were born in Lithuania, so the surname was anglicized during their time there before coming to the US.
I think that the Fox family may have had relatives in Fall River MA, where they first settled in the US.
But I can find no more info about that photo. It seems a longshot...though if it turned out it was taken in Fall River I would reconsider.
Eisner cartooned people up for the Dreamer, but what is there is generally consistent with descriptions of Fox and of the statistics in his draft records.
Yoc:
Hi David,
It would be amazing if something more could be found.
Not long after my last reply I stumbled across a goldmine in an old EC Comics story!
From the last issue of EC's Modern Love #8 - and the last story - 'The Love Story To End All Love Stories' by Al Feldstein. In it EC does a parody of the romance comic glut on the market and takes some shots at what clearly are Victor Fox as well as Simon and Kirby. You can see it at the follow link (scroll down half a page past all the covers)
http://thegoldenagesite.blogspot.co.uk/2009/02/ecs-romance-titles-1949-1950-artwork-by.html
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_PB-O1yT5EYg/SZYpu0kFs5I/AAAAAAAAevY/SXaRybSnXFE/s400/lovestory_01.jpgThe same story is talked about in this blog entry here (again scroll down a while to see the entry) - http://eddiecampbell.blogspot.ca/2011/12/m-y-copy-of-michelle-nolans-book-love.html
And here's a preview of the Fox character from the story (called Mr Wolf)-
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-PpkGihAe2pw/TuGNiA8GRBI/AAAAAAAAHBA/TlJeVOjIz0A/s400/love5.jpgThis depiction is much closer to the descriptions of Victor Fox that I found out there. Especially the horn rim glasses which Eisner never used in Dreamer graphic novel.
It would be great if an actual photo were to someday show but for now this is the image of Fox I'll carry in my mind.
-Yoc
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