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Jack Kirby's copyrights and Steve Ditko's departure from Marvel Comics
josemas:
--- Quote from: bcholmes on April 03, 2011, 02:10:47 PM --- No one disputes that actors (and directors, writers, etc.) are very different temperaments and personality types, and yet they're all part of the Actor's Guild, which works to iron out issues like actor (and writer/director/etc) compensation when new forms of media and/or distribution emerge.
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Actually they are probably not all members of the Actor's Guild but instead belong to whatever guild they specialize in- Director's, Writers, Photographers, etc... Of course some people belong to more than one guild and the various guilds will often work in tandem when negotiating giving them more clout.
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Joe
Drusilla lives!:
--- Quote from: Yoc on April 03, 2011, 08:46:29 PM ---... Profit sharing was promised to S&K at Prize and they had to take them to court there as well. ...
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Ah, I wasn't aware of that Yoc. I guess that torpedoes any chance that Kirby would have accepted a profit sharing offer by Goodman, if he indeed were to have offered one to him.
Guess it would have been just another instance of "been there, done that, no thanks." :)
Besides, you need to have profits to share them, and probably for all Kirby knew there were none... and who knows, being a partner he might have even been on the hook for losses as well. Would it have looked like a good deal to Kirby... I doubt it... especially when no one knew that the superhero comics would takeoff like they did, and certainly no one (not even Goodman) was aware that just a few short years later Perfect Film and Chemical corp would approach them with a takeover offer... which is when the real money started flowing in from pimping all the characters off.
Yoc:
Well, if memory serves me Goodman supposedly had offered some kind of profit sharing after Captain America took off. By the end of issue 10 they knew it wasn't coming and had already started working for DC and produced Captain Marvel Adventures #1. This is from memory, feel free to correct me. It's been a while since I read Joe Simon's Comicbook Makers bio.
Drusilla lives!:
--- Quote from: Yoc on April 04, 2011, 06:45:01 PM ---Well, if memory serves me Goodman supposedly had offered some kind of profit sharing after Captain America took off. By the end of issue 10 they knew it wasn't coming and had already started working for DC and produced Captain Marvel Adventures #1. This is from memory, feel free to correct me. It's been a while since I read Joe Simon's Comicbook Makers bio.
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Sorry Yoc, I've never read that bio, so I can't correct you. ;) :)
But something like a profit sharing deal somewhere along the line with regards to Kirby just seems so natural that it wouldn't surprise me one bit if that were indeed true.
Yoc:
Ok,
I'm posting this link with Some Reticence.
I do NOT want to see this turn into a typical flame war regarding Marvel vs Kirby.
I found this blog entry that does bare some possible significance to the topic of the copyright.
It is one man's opinion (who was on the inside and seems to be universally vilified for the event among other things) and he's made comments without being under oath.
Please, let's keep this topic civil. It's fascinating to read but remember nobody needs to take anything said here as a personal attack on them. Thanks!
Here is the link in question and the part that might be more significant to the current case is in a paragraph that starts with 'The Kirby case ended when...' about three paragraphs into the post.
CLICK HERE TO SEE THE BLOG ENTRY.
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Equally interesting to me see the 'Friday, June 4, 2010' entry - "Gary Friedrich loses Ghost Rider lawsuit"
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