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John Buscema's Work on Dell Four Colour
narfstar:
I am in the same camp as Jon. I have a different problem than most people. I get bored with too much of the same thing. You will not find me getting a collection of any particular artists work. I prefer variety even of uneven quality. Too much exposure and I start liking it less. Yes I am strange but yes I am strange :(|( Al Williamson or Russ Manning might be exceptions, but I do not want to get a collection of their work and take of chance of not liking him as much. So far I have not seen anything of theirs that was sub par. My tastes also change regularly. Don't ask me my favorite movie or musician or group because I like what I like at the time.
JVJ (RIP):
"Casual fans" it is, John.
It's funny just how different our experiences are. The very first comic I ever bought, I bought for the art and immediately wanted to know WHO drew it. It was an instantaneous artistic attraction. The story kept me coming back for more, but it was the art that hooked me. I can STILL remember later showing a coverless DC with a Frank Frazetta reprint in it to a comics friend of mine and being ASTONISHED that he didn't know who drew it. I honestly thought he was pulling my leg. I'm COMPLETELY on the visual side. Always have been.
And I have a deep and abiding interest in the history, too. Which is, as you point out, unusual. Still, one hopes that some few others will care, too. And, as you also point out, I AM discouraged by what passes for comics history in most cases - to the point that don't even read most of it. It just elevates my blood pressure. I should stay off that subject...
I think a better baseball analogy would be for a "fan" not to have heard of Babe Ruth or Ty Cobb or Willie Mays or Reggie Jackson. It's not a "huge failure" but it lessens their claim to being a fan.
I'm in perfect agreement with the "no favorites", narf,
I like way too many artists (both comic and musical) to ever limit myself in any way. You know how many comics I have - well think an equally diverse and extensive selection of music on my computer - nearly 38,000 songs in iTunes.
On the other hand, I can't get too much of any particular one. Unfortunately (or very fortunately - depending on how you look at it), I think I've seen almost all of Williamson's and Manning's comic work (though not their strip stuff, which I find somehow constrained and less-interesting). The new series of AW Sketchbooks from Flesk is a real and unexpected joy.
Personally, I hate to admit it, but I find most comic book stories to be exceedingly jejune and silly. It's the exceptions, when I find them, that are so very informative of the medium. I was looking at some Russ Manning Dale Evans from Dell the other day, and his artwork just MADE me read the story - which turned out to be decent. That's not a common experience for me, which is one reason why I much prefer just looking at the art.
Everyone here, I believe, is a comic reader, like you and John. I just don't fit into that category. I read them assiduously for about ten or fifteen years and then eventually out-grew them, I guess. I find it nearly impossible to approach a modern comic book as they are mostly visually repulsive to me. GAC and DCM are the perfect vehicles for both points of view. You guys get to read the old books that we can't afford and I don't have to look at the new stuff.
It Works out well for all of us.
Peace, Jim (|:{>
John C:
--- Quote from: JVJ on February 15, 2011, 09:42:02 PM ---And I have a deep and abiding interest in the history, too. Which is, as you point out, unusual.
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I've come to appreciate the history, probably through your exposure, but I don't really connect it to the comics themselves, oddly enough...
--- Quote from: JVJ on February 15, 2011, 09:42:02 PM ---I like way too many artists (both comic and musical) to ever limit myself in any way. You know how many comics I have - well think an equally diverse and extensive selection of music on my computer - nearly 38,000 songs in iTunes.
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iTunes (the software) bugs me to the point where I've never successfully used it. However, after a minor collapse in my house, I've been ripping my CD tracks while I figure out what to do with the...five hundred CDs. Maybe five of them are pop or rock, so...it's a weird collection. I feel your "pain."
--- Quote from: JVJ on February 15, 2011, 09:42:02 PM ---Personally, I hate to admit it, but I find most comic book stories to be exceedingly jejune and silly.
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Nothing to hate about it. Most of it IS garbage, the same as any field.
(Funny thing, I've never been fond of artists like Frazetta and Kubert. I understand the attraction intellectually, but their work just seems extremely busy to the point where it distracts from the storytelling it's supposed to cooperate in.)
--- Quote from: JVJ on February 15, 2011, 09:42:02 PM ---I find it nearly impossible to approach a modern comic book as they are mostly visually repulsive to me. GAC and DCM are the perfect vehicles for both points of view. You guys get to read the old books that we can't afford and I don't have to look at the new stuff.
It Works out well for all of us.
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The modern stuff doesn't do it for me, either, in any respect. I could make a looong list of problems, but I can't think of anything I've read produced in twenty years that made interested in buying the next issue. I try, every once in a while, but there's just so much that's uninteresting and technically poor. Outside of the paper, I mean, which is of absurdly high quality.
Yoc:
--- Quote from: John C on February 16, 2011, 05:46:39 AM ---(Funny thing, I've never been fond of artists like Frazetta and Kubert. I understand the attraction intellectually, but their work just seems extremely busy to the point where it distracts from the storytelling it's supposed to cooperate in.)
The modern stuff doesn't do it for me, either, in any respect. I could make a looong list of problems, but I can't think of anything I've read produced in twenty years that made interested in buying the next issue. I try, every once in a while, but there's just so much that's uninteresting and technically poor. Outside of the paper, I mean, which is of absurdly high quality.
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Wow John, those statements might get you tarred and feathered in some places.
I know I've recommended them before but I highly suggest (and I believe OtherEric is a fan too) trying the first big story arc of the Fables series. Or the first tpb of "1001 Nights of Snowfall" which was a prequel to the series. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1001_Nights_of_Snowfall
A great combo of story and artwork that hasn't let me down more than a couple times.
I truly hope that Jim will somehow produce a book or website that contains all the facts he's collected about comics creators/publishers someday. The thought it might be lost someday worries me.
-Yoc
narfstar:
I have to agree with Jim on most of the art today. The style usually does not appeal to me.I will say some of the covers today are absolutely awesome. Zenoscope consistently wows me. . I have found a few stories worth reading. I have enjoyed the Kato series(s) more than the Green Hornet(s) which I have enjoyed. Executive Assistant Iris and Mystery Society were both good. A series that only made it one issue that I was looking forward to the next issue was Agon. Looked like it was going to be good scifi. I recently added John Carter to my pull list, I waited to see where it was going and after issue 4 decided to take the plunge. The new Mass Effect series seems like some promising scifi.
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