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JVJ (RIP):
Now I see your point, narf.
Of course. In comics it is exactly the same, isn't it? If a book's been restored, it can't compare with the "value" of an unrestored one. My point has always been that if we put a premium on white pages in original comics, shouldn't we try to strive for that "ultimate goal" in the scans? And it is my belief that NO comic book artist WANTED his or her art to be printed on yellowing pulp paper. That seems to be a nostalgia/fan thing that somehow (to me, anyway) defies logic. I know it's real, I'm just incapable of comprehending WHY, if we prize white pages in real comics, we don't prize them in scans.
So shoot me...
Peace, Jim (|:{>
narfstar:
I would say you are in the majority Jim. Yes there are us fanboys who like the "natural" look. I also love the perfect look. When I do edits it is mostly straightening. Thanks to Snard that will be a lot easier now. But I admit that on some comics I do brighten them because that is what people like.
rangerhouse:
No on the Yellower JVJ never.
With me so far its if I got a pretty rare issue or I've got good paper quality I will always go for the white. I always feel like I'm on some sort of crusade to preserve and restore issue.
If I got a bad copy or no time, I still run some kind of filter on it. Brighten it up a little.
Scanners just pickup so much so sometimes I think scanned copy doesn't look like what I just read anyways.. Looks like someone urinated on the book and now with strange spots I never noticed before.
So I think in the end its the scanners choice for sure with the most important point of getting all this stuff scanned before it turns to dust..
Ami_GFX:
Interesting. As a kid, I loved comics for what they were, cheap thrills, mass produced art and story telling available almost anywhere for very little money. I lost interest when they started going upscale and taking themselves too seriously. Better paper and having to go to a comic book store to buy them put me off. The only comic book store I ever really liked was Gary Arlington's San Francisco Comic Book Company. I never liked the whole collector/comic speculator mentality. I bought comics to read and enjoy and, yes, it was nice to have them in nice condition, but it wasn't necessary.
I don't mind scans of comics that have yellow pages as long as the scan is good quality. I like the touch of reality. I was looking at some digital silver age Marvels recently and I would much prefer a scan of the real comic with all the ads and letters and imperfections.
One of my scans (Jungle 153) looks better to me than the original book. The scan seems to just show the art and not the imperfections of the actual book. It might be just my reaction to the smell of the old newsprint which I don't really like. It seems to be a lot worse in comics coming from a humid climate. Most of what I have has been stored in a dry house in the arid southwest since I bought it and doesn't have a strong smell.
I've never quite understood the value placed on a patina. I do metal work and jewlery fabrication and copper and copper alloys all will develop a patina naturally in no time and if you polish them, they will always patina again and if you are in a hurry, there a lots of chemical patina compounds sold just to do instant patinas. If I found a really nice piece of old silver jewelry, my instict would be to polish it and restore it to the condition it was in when it was made but the general mentality of those who deal in such things is that it takes away from the value. I can understand liking a patina look which can be a nice effect but why a piece of antique brass work should be worth so much more if it hasn't been polished in 100 years is beyond me.
larrytalbot:
AMI - I'm in agreement with your opening paragraph. And, I'm surprised some enterprising publisher doesn't go back to the cheaper newsprint to bring the price of comics down a bit. With today's tight cash climate, that might turn out to be a successful competitive move - might increase sales & pressure other publishers to do the same. Also, would be nice for comics fans to have more product choice & competetive pricing.
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