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lrek:
Comment made at: Little Ike 02
FWIW, GCDB does not mention any Audrey material in its bare-bones description of the content.
 

Robb_K:
Comment made at: Little Ike 02
Maybe Yoc can tell us what the connection to Little Audrey is?  It's the Paramount copyright that is important, rather than Harvey's later copyrights (that Yoc mentioned as being a sign that we can't upload anything with Little Audrey material).  As for GCD, I've recognised literally hundreds of either inaccurate credits or other missing or incorrect informational data that I could provide corrected information.  But the administrators there wouldn't give me access to making corrections.  So I submitted a few suggested changes with some documentation, but they never got around to making the changes or additions.  So I gave up.  But I found that just because there is no information in various areas for a book, doesn't mean that what we hear or read in posts or from other collectors is not reflected in GCD's database doesn't mean that it isn't a fact (and also doesn't even mean that they don't have access to that data, as their overburdened small staff of volunteers is always quite a bit behind in tabulating new information.  Virtually all my potential contributions are in the Comedy genre (GA and very early SA), and I believe that genre takes a back seat in priority to Golden Age action-based (and other realistic Human-figured) series.  So it is understandable.  From what you just told us, it seems as though we could upload Little Joe at CB+.  Mark is a bit less risk averse than this website's administration.  I doubt if "Little Joe" would be very expensive on auction.  It's a very ordinary and bland little kids' book from the early 1950s, and not nearly as funny or clever as "Little Eva" (which had some cross-fertilisation with "Little Joe/Ike").  So, it should pop up for sale or auction within the next few or several years.  I suspect that most people who'd want it would be historian/archivist types, like me, who would just want it for completion, rather than having a nostalgic attachment to it.
 

Snard:
Comment made at: Little Ike 02
I will respond here since I am the person who scanned this book (Conan is one of the nicknames I use when I scan comics). I am also the person who told Yoc of the connection to Little Audrey, so that he could investigate whether there might be a copyright issue. Little Joe was a recurring character in St. John Little Audrey comics and stories, and he often had his own stories in those books. As noted earlier, the Little Audrey title was copyrighted by Paramount Pictures, while Little Joe and Little Ike were copyrighted by St. John Publishing. I am not an expert on copyright, and I understand that it can be difficult to determine whether a book is public domain or not. For a site like DCM which maintains a large library of scans, I can understand if the owners take a "better safe than sorry" stance on books, to avoid copyright claims which could shut down the site or embroil it in legal issues. That said, I will also mention that I know that Little Joe #1 has already been scanned by a colleague and is awaiting editing. If further investigation shows that it is safe to post, I am sure it will be uploaded here. Thanks to everyone for their support and interest in these books.
 

Robb_K:
Comment made at: Little Ike 02
Thanks for that information, Snard.  It's good to know that "Little Joe" has been found, and will be scanned.  I definitely hope that it's copyright status will be further researched to the point where it will be known whether or not that book's contents will be in The PD.  Then, neither DCM nor CB+ will risk legal problems or being shut down, and I hope that, at the very least, the book's currently PD contents will be able to be uploaded at CB+.
 

lrek:
Comment made at: Little Ike 02
AFAICT, Little Joe first appeared in Little Audrey #11 (July 1950) as a redhead and wearing a distinctive (Jughead-like) cap. On the front cover of Little Joe #1 (1953) he's a capless blonde, so perhaps an argument could be made that the name is pure coincidence and not, say, based on Leffingwell's (& Gray's?) Little Joe (1933-1972)? Hard to say without seeing the actual Little Joe comic. Do any of the other members of Audrey's gang appear in his book?
 

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