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Re: Darwination upload
« Reply #30 on: July 25, 2010, 08:13:10 PM »
Teen-Age Temptations 002 (1953) (St. John) (JVJ-Two-Dar)

http://i32.tinypic.com/x44za0.jpg
One of my favorite Matt Baker covers.  Thanks to JVJ for letting us at his collection and to Twobyfour for the raws.

At the FTP or available here:

http://www.mediafire.com/?yrokmr68oi1a3t5
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Re: Darwination upload
« Reply #30 on: July 25, 2010, 08:13:10 PM »

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Re: Darwination upload
« Reply #31 on: July 25, 2010, 10:20:35 PM »
It is now up folks, go get it.

Thanks for all the fine work done on this book, JVJ for the book, Twobyfour for the scans and Darwination for the edits. A great coming together of talent and cooperation.

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Re: Darwination upload
« Reply #32 on: July 25, 2010, 10:41:18 PM »
Thanks guys, wow, that IS a very nice cover!  This is the first time I've ever seen it.  Very playful.
I wonder did Baker ink it?  It seems a bit 'off' somehow for his own inking or am I way off base?

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Re: Darwination upload
« Reply #33 on: July 26, 2010, 04:02:51 AM »
my guess, from internal evidence is that Baker WAS the inker on this cover.

FWIW.  Peace, Jim (|:{>
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Re: Darwination upload
« Reply #34 on: July 26, 2010, 03:18:12 PM »
Thanks Jim.  It looked a bit odd to me around the man's hand but I'm not expert either.

Jim, I've sent you a Private Message and an Email on another subject.

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Re: Darwination upload
« Reply #35 on: August 02, 2010, 11:46:09 AM »
Teen-Age Temptations 003 (1953) (St. John) (JVJ-Two-Dar)

http://i25.tinypic.com/xb050m.jpg

Thanks to JVJ for letting us scan his fantastic collection and to Twobyfour for the raws, it is such a treat to read these comics!  All the stories deal with the choices teen-age girls make on the cusp of adulthood, usually between two men.  The first story with Mort Drucker art, "I Wanted Life Long Thrills," involves a girl going steady with a pilot who's away for long periods of time.  Enter an old beau who had left town without so much as a word.  They begin to fool around, cue the emotional rollercoaster.  An interesting ending, perhaps opposite of a typical resolution.  The second story, "The Kisses I Couldn't Forget," features some nice art from Ric Estrada and involves a crafty girl with the key to making men interested, learning their hobbies!  She works with a boy she's interested in on a new machine, but he's more interested in the machine than the girl, so she turns to some darkroom fun developing into a love triangle.  But the photographer's not getting played, he's the one doing the playing!  Thirdly, the gem of the bunch,  with story attributed to Dutch Dana by John Benson with art from Matt Baker, a somewhat scandalous ditty, I suppose, in which a girl lies about her age to marry her long-time beau who's headed for the service.  They marry and spend a night together, but the girl instantly confesses to her mother and the marriage is annulled. Her new reputation as a bad girl drives our heroine to lie about her age again, this time to enlist in the armed services and escape town.  A story of maturation and growth, I do have to agree that Dutch's stories really break the mold - I imagine teenage girls loved them.  And lastly, "To Young To Wed," in which a conniving lass behaves badly and is forgiven by her adoring man, you have to wonder where they found all these pushovers.  Great fun!  Again, thanks to JVJ for sharing these fine St. John romances with us.


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http://www.mediafire.com/?gvzuaj45s6jq4gm

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Re: Darwination upload
« Reply #36 on: August 02, 2010, 01:50:08 PM »
Thanks Darwin.
That Baker story looked a bit 'off' to me as well.
Say, I don't see JVJ's index card in this one or the one before.  Were they missed?

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Re: Darwination upload
« Reply #37 on: August 02, 2010, 03:25:34 PM »
Hey Yoc, I believe Jim's index cards for the St. John Romance were the basis for the excellent index that is available here (and hence the reason Jim probably didn't include them for scanning):

http://www.fantagraphics.com/downloads/stjohnchecklist.xls

It lists:
TEEN-AGE TEMPTATIONS 3, August 1953. Cover: BAKER. Daring cover.
308A 8 S Drucker I Wanted Life-Long Thrills
308B 6 N ESTRADA The Kisses I Couldn't Forget
308C 8 D BAKER Without a Conscience
308D 7 S PEDDY/? Too Young to Wed

D would be a story that Benson associates with Dana Dutch, S would be stories with some elements of his style, and N are stories that Benson's categorized as generic and probably not from his pen.  This story looks like pure Baker to me, but I've been wrong on that count before and probably will be again.  I find his St. John stuff to be more distinctive and easier to identify than some of his earlier work, but, like I say, I've been wrong before....

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Re: Darwination upload
« Reply #38 on: August 02, 2010, 03:57:44 PM »
I'm not certain that I even sent cards on all of those St. John books, darwination, simply because of the on-line Fantagraphics list (which is basically my work). No need to repeat all that effort, I felt.

As for finding Baker's St. John "more distinctive and easier to identify" - that's simply because you've been lied to for decades as to what Baker's art looked like. Baker has always been better than most of the crud that has been attributed to him by unscrupulous dealers who would rather be rich than right.

You should trust yourself and your eyes, darwination, and you should not listen so hard to the "experts", Yoc.

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Re: Darwination upload
« Reply #39 on: August 02, 2010, 04:32:51 PM »
Maybe it's because I'm less interested in the artists than most fans, but even where they're somehow redundant, I have to admit that I enjoy seeing the cards.  In a process that often starts with an editor trying to weed out individual tendencies, moves through an unfeeling printing and distribution system, and then through scanners who try to extract themsevles from the process as much as possible (most of which, by the way, is to be applauded at how well it happens), the cards are an added human touch.

They're sort of the adult's version of a comic where someone has drawn a mustache on the female lead, I guess.

By the way, I love the cover's concern.  Makes the debate over the Arizona immigration law seem trivial, in a world where women need to prove they're married to wear a wedding ring.  Or maybe that's a railroad-themed singles bar, and those are two of the most aggressive drunks you're likely to meet--they'll shtare at her until she produches her papersh, or something...

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Re: Darwination upload
« Reply #40 on: August 02, 2010, 10:51:59 PM »
Thanks for the StJohn checklist Darwin!
I'd heard Jim was working with them but haven't seen what they've got going on.

Jim, I'm just going on a gut feeling and the Baker in that issue didn't seem as smooth or robust as his other work.  Like perhaps a rushed job by him or his inker.

-Yoc

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Re: Darwination upload
« Reply #41 on: August 16, 2010, 08:13:38 AM »
Spirit Section 120 (1942-09-13.Chicago Sun) (Darwin)

http://i34.tinypic.com/2d6td1e.jpg


At the ftp and available here
http://www.mediafire.com/?2je41gs41btqfi9


And, not a comic, so not at FTP, but I thought Baker fans might appreciate a peek.

RAGE v01n02 (1957-02.Arnold)

http://i33.tinypic.com/245yb9k.jpg

The second issue of this Everett Arnold-published sweat magazine.  Featuring two Matt Baker splashes.  Also featuring an article written by Elvis in defense of rock and roll (I can see Elvis reading this stripe of magazine) as well as articles on Blaze Starr, a one-legged mountain climber, Is a Woman Making You Impotent? and more.  It's interesting to see Baker work in this different medium.

scan available here:
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?pnkxfcp988uxz2u

http://i33.tinypic.com/25tagwl.jpg
http://i35.tinypic.com/2wqa641.jpg

You can get the first issue, which has no Baker art though it does provide a context for the Elvis article, here:

http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?yzjymnl1tti


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Re: Darwination upload
« Reply #42 on: August 16, 2010, 12:52:29 PM »
Thanks for the "Spirit" Darwin, that jewel is now ready for downloading folks, go get it.

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Re: Darwination upload
« Reply #43 on: August 17, 2010, 10:11:45 AM »
Thanks JVJ and darwination for the Teenage Temptations, those look worth getting for sure.

Love the Rage scan darwination, I've got several of your other men's scans and this one was great. Thanks for the tip about the Matt Baker art too! John Keel, author of the cover story "Fangs At My Throat", became a prominent paranormal UFO unsolved mysteries type of writer in the 60s and 70s.

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Re: Darwination upload
« Reply #44 on: August 17, 2010, 09:08:37 PM »
Love the Rage scan darwination, I've got several of your other men's scans and this one was great. Thanks for the tip about the Matt Baker art too! John Keel, author of the cover story "Fangs At My Throat", became a prominent paranormal UFO unsolved mysteries type of writer in the 60s and 70s.

Glad you enjoyed it, Max.  I've got 6 of the first 7 issues of Rage, and I think maybe all but issue one have Baker art.  I'm not sure how many issues there were, but even seven is more than most suspect.  I'll be scanning the issues I have in order, and hopefully I can locate the issue I need in the meantime (tho I'm not counting on it).  Arnold's venture into sweat mags included at least one other title, Courage, which lasted 3 issues.  Vintage magazine scanner McCoy has scanned the first issue, and I might as well put it up here (thanks McCoy!) since we are talking about it.  8)  I'm not sure if he has any of the other issues, but I hope so.  If anybody knows of any other magazines Arnold was putting out at the time, please do let me know...

http://i36.tinypic.com/2hqbaja.jpg

get it here:
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?mojd4zzdyoi

The 2 Baker splashes from the issue
http://i34.tinypic.com/f0uijm.jpg
http://i37.tinypic.com/k3rrrn.jpg

Also, another entry for the Spirit project  :)

Spirit Section 207 (1944-05-14.Chicago Sun) (Darwin)

http://i34.tinypic.com/warmnc.jpg

at the ftp or available here:
http://www.mediafire.com/?3p0a3l2hx56tmu2
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